Pontiac Solstice Forum - View Single Post - 2.4 Turbo - blown engine [rumor, non-substantiated]

I've put 11k on mine. Half on stage II and half on stage III. I knew going in that it was going to void my warranty and that I could potentially blow a motor. I wanted/needed more power. I did my homework on aftermarket adders and decided on Hahn. We bought two and after putting mine in, my partner flew home after riding in and driving my car and installed his. It's not my daily driver but I find that I drive it more than I originally would have imagined, due to the fact that it is a blast to drive. I haven't had this much enjoyment behind the wheel since I had my 87 GTA. I also don't drive it like I stole it, but I do drive it very spirited. WOT a couple times a year just to check a/f on my wideband. As for maintenance, most guys willing to install aftermarket power adders keep a close eye on their babies anyway, and don't mind the neccessary tweaking that goes with it. To hear about this happening to someone doesn't scare or surprise me in the least. In fact I'm really surprised that it took this long for it to happen. If I was twenty all over again with a car like this look out. I'd have stock in "crate engine depot". If I had to do it over again, I'd call Bill and buy two more systems. In fact I may go to stage IV this winter because I think the motor can handle it. If it was going to be my daily driver I'd probably go GXP. All in all, I think that there are three quality systems on the market that I wouldn't think twice about using. In some respects, cars are like humans. Treat them with respect and take care of them and they should last a long time. Ride-em hard and they wear out faster. Some small percentage are destined to fall apart. So I think it's all relative. My one beef with them is the complexity of the tune on todays motors, and I think it will only get worse as cafe rating go higher and they try to wring more out of internal combustion. Locked ecm's and complex programming can really hamper some of these guys that want to learn on the fly. I for one would love to get in and look at the program in my ecm, but it's locked. I understand the reason behind locking it, as engineering is expensive for someone else to copy and turn a nice profit with the marketing that comes with the todays internet. Ask zzybil what a bad tune can do.

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Mysterious, Ebony w/ everything but OnStar and XM.
Hahn Stage III
Greddy Profec Boost Controller
Greddy BOV Upgrade
Zeitronics A/F & Boost Gage
Hi-Flow Converter, Magnaflow Cat Back
Goodyear Eagle D3's-WOW
Stabilizer Kit Upgrade
"Pontiac Racing" Illuminated Wind Restrictor
Power Steering Reservoir Move Mod
Dashhawk
Snow Perf. Methanol Injection

	grinder Member Join Date: Oct 2006	I've put 11k on mine. Half on stage II and half on stage III. I knew going in that it was going to void my warranty and that I could potentially blow a motor. I wanted/needed more power. I did my homework on aftermarket adders and decided on Hahn. We bought two and after putting mine in, my partner flew home after riding in and driving my car and installed his. It's not my daily driver but I find that I drive it more than I originally would have imagined, due to the fact that it is a blast to drive. I haven't had this much enjoyment behind the wheel since I had my 87 GTA. I also don't drive it like I stole it, but I do drive it very spirited. WOT a couple times a year just to check a/f on my wideband. As for maintenance, most guys willing to install aftermarket power adders keep a close eye on their babies anyway, and don't mind the neccessary tweaking that goes with it. To hear about this happening to someone doesn't scare or surprise me in the least. In fact I'm really surprised that it took this long for it to happen. If I was twenty all over again with a car like this look out. I'd have stock in "crate engine depot". If I had to do it over again, I'd call Bill and buy two more systems. In fact I may go to stage IV this winter because I think the motor can handle it. If it was going to be my daily driver I'd probably go GXP. All in all, I think that there are three quality systems on the market that I wouldn't think twice about using. In some respects, cars are like humans. Treat them with respect and take care of them and they should last a long time. Ride-em hard and they wear out faster. Some small percentage are destined to fall apart. So I think it's all relative. My one beef with them is the complexity of the tune on todays motors, and I think it will only get worse as cafe rating go higher and they try to wring more out of internal combustion. Locked ecm's and complex programming can really hamper some of these guys that want to learn on the fly. I for one would love to get in and look at the program in my ecm, but it's locked. I understand the reason behind locking it, as engineering is expensive for someone else to copy and turn a nice profit with the marketing that comes with the todays internet. Ask zzybil what a bad tune can do. __________________ Mysterious, Ebony w/ everything but OnStar and XM. Hahn Stage III Greddy Profec Boost Controller Greddy BOV Upgrade Zeitronics A/F & Boost Gage Hi-Flow Converter, Magnaflow Cat Back Goodyear Eagle D3's-WOW Stabilizer Kit Upgrade "Pontiac Racing" Illuminated Wind Restrictor Power Steering Reservoir Move Mod Dashhawk Snow Perf. Methanol Injection