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Old 12-12-2008, 12:35 AM   #2 (permalink)
Snugglebear
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Even with a bailout GM will still be slashing production and the related downstream economic activity. The same thing happens in every downturn whether it bottoms out at equilibrium below full employment (depression) or not. That the automakers are trying to scare people with that garbage from the CAR study and not mention that they'll have to cut at least that much to even survive is a huge fraud. Here's a cut & paste from Google finance of their balance sheet

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Income Statement
				Quarterly	Annual		Annual
				(Sep '08)	(2007)		(2006)
Total Revenue 			37,941.00 	181,122.00 	205,601.00 	 
Gross Profit 			3,020.00 	14,543.00 	18,912.00 	 
Operating Income 		-883.00 	-4,390.00 	-5,823.00 	 
Net Income 			-2,542.00 	-38,732.00 	-1,978.00 	 
Balance Sheet 				 
Total Assets 			110,425.00 	148,883.00 	186,304.00 	 
Total Liabilities 		170,364.00 	185,977.00 	191,956.00 	 
Total Equity 			-59,939.00 	-37,094.00 	-5,652.00 	 
Cash Flow 				 
Net Income/Starting Line 	-		-38,732.00 	-1,978.00 	 
Cash from Operating Activities 	-7,473.00 	7,731.00 	-22,896.00 	 
Cash from Investing Activities 	997.00 		-1,760.00 	19,695.00 	 
Cash from Financing Activities 	3,473.00 	-5,593.00 	-3,767.00 	 
Net Change in Cash		-3,547.00 	694.00 		-6,603.00
Their immediate issue for survival is with cash. No cash, no pay bills, bankruptcy. Their mid-term issue is right there in the middle where their liabilities outweigh assets by about $60B. I'm sorry, even a bridge loan cannot rectify that. Some of their creditors will have to swallow a bitter pill. Most aren't going to budge. That's why we have Chapter 11.

Also, please note that their stock price is in the dumps precisely because the shareholders will assuredly lose everything within the next few months. If GM files bankruptcy the equity is wiped out, whether they survive or not. If GM gets bailed out, chances are the deal will wipe out shareholders just the same - the Feds want their pound of flesh, and it's easy to target the shareholders who stood idly by as GM dug themselves a huge hole in the past few years. Years where the economy was doing quite well, I might add.

Perhaps the best summary was from a poster on Google finance

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