Salty's 2.4 turbo = 333whp on pump gas!

[nighttripper]

Originally Posted by Greg@Pwerks yea thats why we use windshield washer fluid or boost juice

So I take it that because the methanol is in, diluted form and only used under high boost applications, that it is okay to use.

[elwood58]

The issue with Methanol has to do with how corrosive it is to fuel tank, pumps and lines. With Meth/Water injection, it is a self contained system that injects into the air intake side, so no worries about damaging the normal fuel delivery system.

Don't get me wrong, this would still be an inspection issue in most states, and a definite warranty impact if GM knows you are using it.

[nighttripper]

Originally Posted by elwood58 The issue with Methanol has to do with how corrosive it is to fuel tank, pumps and lines. With Meth/Water injection, it is a self contained system that injects into the air intake side, so no worries about damaging the normal fuel delivery system. Don't get me wrong, this would still be an inspection issue in most states, and a definite warranty impact if GM knows you are using it.

Thanks for the explanation.

[perris]

Originally Posted by Greg@Pwerks Unfortunately this kit will not work with the 2.0. We are in the "WERKS" of a bigger turbo kit for the GXP/REDLINE. Which i am hoping to be releasing very soon (2-3 weeks)

if we can tune to more spark, why won't the kit work in the 2.0 stock except for the tune?

[Greg@Pwerks]

Originally Posted by perris if we can tune to more spark, why won't the kit work in the 2.0 stock except for the tune?

Im sorry for the mis understanding i was talking about the turbo kit not the meth injection

[perris]

with the proper tune, how much horsepower can a stock gxp get with water/methane injection?

also, I am told the gxp is actually tuned from the factory for octane even higher then 93, if this is true there should be some kind of gain even without a tune

would you be able to go to stock tune on a gxp with water injection?

I would love to see if there are any gains and I would also wonder if those gains are kept over time

[werks]

Originally Posted by perris with the proper tune, how much horsepower can a stock gxp get with water/methane injection? also, I am told the gxp is actually tuned from the factory for octane even higher then 93, if this is true there should be some kind of gain even without a tune would you be able to go to stock tune on a gxp with water injection? I would love to see if there are any gains and I would also wonder if those gains are kept over time

I am not sure what we could get out of a stock GXP with just the addition of water/meth injection but I would love to try! Considering the stock GXP dynos in the 218-230 range I would expect to see gains in the 50-75whp area with the addition of water/meth and boost tuning. If anyone is interested in Chicagoland to give this a shot, come on in, I can work out a great deal for you!

[perris]

Originally Posted by werks I am not sure what we could get out of a stock GXP with just the addition of water/meth injection but I would love to try! Considering the stock GXP dynos in the 218-230 range I would expect to see gains in the 50-75whp area with the addition of water/meth and boost tuning. If anyone is interested in Chicagoland to give this a shot, come on in, I can work out a great deal for you!

even without the octane boost of water/methane injection a tune gives the gxp that much horsepower

adding advance on top of that existing tune should be out of control

I believe the best way to tell if the gxp will get more power from water/methane would be to try a competant octane boost

I am going to do that, do you have one to suggest?

[werks]

Originally Posted by perris even without the octane boost of water/methane injection a tune gives the gxp that much horsepower adding advance on top of that existing tune should be out of control I believe the best way to tell if the gxp will get more power from water/methane would be to try a competant octane boost I am going to do that, do you have one to suggest?

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[madmods]

Originally Posted by perris even without the octane boost of water/methane injection a tune gives the gxp that much horsepower adding advance on top of that existing tune should be out of control I believe the best way to tell if the gxp will get more power from water/methane would be to try a competant octane boost I am going to do that, do you have one to suggest?

It would be like adding race gas. You should see results. Though, I do not think it would be a fair comparison with the water/meth injection due to the fact that one of the advantages is a much cooler charge. I use to run race gas all the time with more
boost, but it was a pain in the ass to lug the race gas cans in the trunk.

Any gas stations in your area Perris that sell race gas or 100+octane?

Dave, I want the same stuff salty has!!!!

[werks]

Originally Posted by madmods It would be like adding race gas. You should see results. Though, I do not think it would be a fair comparison with the water/meth injection due to the fact that one of the advantages is a much cooler charge. I use to run race gas all the time with more boost, but it was a pain in the ass to lug the race gas cans in the trunk. Any gas stations in your area Perris that sell race gas or 100+octane? Dave, I want the same stuff salty has!!!!

Get that stage 2 installed and she should do pretty well!

[spiky3480]

I think I will be going water/meth by March...I am kind of excited to see results on the dyno or on the track.

[salty]

Madmod (and anybody else as a matter of fact), do it

Originally Posted by werks Get that stage 2 installed and she should do pretty well!

[Mrtoycrazy]

I second that!!

[werks]

Originally Posted by Mrtoycrazy I second that!!

Listen to these guys, they know first hand!