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Thanks for the information, there is a tuner here in town that does great work that I am thinking. If dave lived closer to me then it would be a no brainer but that is a ways to drive for a tune.
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Thanks for the information, there is a tuner here in town that does great work that I am thinking. If dave lived closer to me then it would be a no brainer but that is a ways to drive for a tune.
True that, it would be a long drive, haha. I am not out to say there are no other competent tuners, because there are many.

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Terminator2(David) is my tuner and tunes for DDMWorks now. Everything he's done for me has been remote and on stock turbo I got 368whp 446wtrq. I need to dyno my BNR.

Anyways, looking forward to seeing the WR-3 perform tomorrow. Anymore pics?

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Terminator2(David) is my tuner and tunes for DDMWorks now. Everything he's done for me has been remote and on stock turbo I got 368whp 446wtrq. I need to dyno my BNR.

Anyways, looking forward to seeing the WR-3 perform tomorrow. Anymore pics?
That HAS to be a happy dyno, but that's neither here nor there because all in all, it's just a number to show an improvement. David is a good tuner and I am glad to see he got in somewhere to tune. He has a talent that needs to be put to good use. Though, I am not a big fan of remote tuning because it is very hard for the tuner to understand an issue if something happens to arise. I think Dave feels the same way for the same reason. I have done some remote tuning for a few friends, but I know they know how to troubleshoot a problem if something arises. It's very hard when working with someone who is not a good troubleshooter, especially with how finicky the LNF can be at times.

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That HAS to be a happy dyno, but that's neither here nor there because all in all, it's just a number to show an improvement. David is a good tuner and I am glad to see he got in somewhere to tune. He has a talent that needs to be put to good use. Though, I am not a big fan of remote tuning because it is very hard for the tuner to understand an issue if something happens to arise. I think Dave feels the same way for the same reason. I have done some remote tuning for a few friends, but I know they know how to troubleshoot a problem if something arises. It's very hard when working with someone who is not a good troubleshooter, especially with how finicky the LNF can be at times.
Dyno Dynamics, E85/cams and Springs. The previous dyno was 357whp 410wtrq on E47. So I did see gains.

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I think it's the massive hit of torque at low rpm that kills the pistons. With a bigger turbo that makes gradual strong power to redline is actually going to be a little less abusive on them.

This has me second guessing my current turbo upgrade a little bit. Something that is guaranteed to fit the platform. Kudos to the guys at Werks for this one, and in for dyno numbers!

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I think it's the massive hit of torque at low rpm that kills the pistons. With a bigger turbo that makes gradual strong power to redline is actually going to be a little less abusive on them.

This has me second guessing my current turbo upgrade a little bit. Something that is guaranteed to fit the platform. Kudos to the guys at Werks for this one, and in for dyno numbers!
It kills rings, which in turn kills pistons. My main concern though is the stock cast iron exhaust Mani. Its restrictive with flow and these bolt on options give you a larger turbo capable of making more power but leaving the Mani untouched. Restrictive flow cause heat in the cylinders effecting rings.

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What happened to dynoing today? Been waiting

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What happened to dynoing today? Been waiting
Looks like it was installed and dynoed:

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Yes we dynoed a Cobalt with the WR-3 last night on 93 octane, here are the results -


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Hmmmmm, well guess its in its infancy still(regarding tuning) as I was expecting to see 450whp. Any chance they are going to do more dyno runs?

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Hmmmmm, well guess its in its infancy still(regarding tuning) as I was expecting to see 450whp. Any chance they are going to do more dyno runs?
On a dynojet that is 456hp!!! Keep in mind a Mustang dyno reads low my friend. This is a very conservative 93 octane daily driver tune. When the weather gets better towards springtime we will be wicking this one up a bit with some E-47 or water/meth injection.

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Roger, thank you guys for all your efforts and R&D yet another option I an consider come next year.

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I think it's the massive hit of torque at low rpm that kills the pistons. With a bigger turbo that makes gradual strong power to redline is actually going to be a little less abusive on them.

This has me second guessing my current turbo upgrade a little bit. Something that is guaranteed to fit the platform. Kudos to the guys at Werks for this one, and in for dyno numbers!
Totally agree on that. Also with that torque spike if you're not right on with the tune it will throw things off, promoting ring-land destruction. I mean, these are only hypereutectic pistons with a pretty junky/weak ringland design... how much can you expect? Lol.

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Can't wait for E and/or Meth.

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