2010 Kappa pilot production dates and information. - Pontiac Solstice Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-27-2012, 11:35 AM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 29
2010 Kappa pilot production dates and information.

Here’s some information regarding 2010 Kappa pilot production. The following information is taken from my personal notes while working at the Wilmington plant during the four years of Kappa production. I am not a GM representative; all of these notes are my own personal opinions and interpretation. I thought Solstice and Sky owners would like to know about these things.

GM built thirty 2010 Pontiac Solstice, Saturn Sky and Opel GT pilot cars during the 2009 production run. The 2010’s were mixed with regular production 2009 Pontiac Solstice, Saturn Sky’s and Opel’s.
These pilots were scheduled to be built in three batches, 10 cars to a batch and 3 weeks between them. Sometimes not all 10 cars of the same batch would come off the final line together. Sometimes a car was removed from the assembly line process for various reasons and put back on the assembly line. It could be hours, days or weeks before it was put back on the assembly line. In the plant this was known as a “bust job”. The meant the car had been busted out of production, i.e., removed from the assembly line (bust out). When put back on the line, (bust in) its VIN and AZ number were now out of numerical sequence. All 2010’s were built before the last 2009 Solstice convertible or coupe were made.

The first batch of 2010 pilots came off the final line on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 at 8 AM. The first 2010 pilot was a Solstice Coupe in Kinetic blue VIN # 9AY100001. Here’s the list.

AY100001 Solstice Coupe in Kinetic blue manual. Drove off final line at 8 AM.
AY100002 Solstice GXP coupe red, automatic
AY100003 Solstice GXP convertible deep blue manual
AY100004 Solstice GXP convertible red automatic
AY100005 Solstice GXP convertible (did not record body color) manual
AY100006 GXP convertible red automatic (see correction below)
AY100007 GXP convertible 67U silver automatic (see correction below)



Correction 11/28/12: Regarding the first 2010 batch, I saw VIN’S AY100001 and AY100002. Time prevented me from seeing AY100003 to AY100007 but on 7/14/09 I saw the info at the plant. Initially I wrote down that AY100006 and AY100007 were both Daewoo G2X turbo automatics. Later on, thinking I had made a mistake, I changed that information to GXP convertibles. Reason being that I did not think that we had made any Daewoo’s. I apologize for the confusion but this is the first time I have tried compiling my 3 year old notes. Here are the correctons:

AY100006 Daewoo G2X red turbo automatic
AY100007 Daewoo G2X silver 67U turbo automatic



For reference a regular production, black 2009 Solstice GXP coupe, automatic trans, VIN# 9Y000178 immediately preceded the 2010 Solstice Coupe in Kinetic blue, VIN # 9AY100001.

The second batch of 2010 pilots came off final line on Monday afternoon, May 4 and into Tuesday morning, May 5, 2009. Ten pilot cars were in a row for this batch. These 10 pilots were preceded by a 2009 solstice Coupe VIN 91000355.

This second batch of 2010 pilot VIN numbers were as follows:

AY000008 Solstice GXP coupe black labyrinth manual
AY000009 Solstice GXP coupe black labyrinth automatic
AY000010 Solstice GXP convertible hydro blue, manual.
AY000011 Sky black labyrinth turbo automatic
AY000012 Sky black, manual
AY000013 Sky black turbo automatic
AY000014 Sky black labyrinth turbo, manual
AY000015 Opel black turbo, manual
AY000016 Solstice GXP coupe Merlot automatic
AY000018 Solstice GXP coupe Kinetic Blue, manual

Note there was no car between AY000016 and AY000018 as this was a bust out job, Should have been a AY000017 Pontiac solstice white automatic.

Wednesday, May 13, 2009. A “bust in” a white Pontiac solstice convertible automatic, VIN # AY000017 was on the assembly line, near final line.

The last Mecca tour was held on Friday, May 15, 2009. The first 2009 Solstice coupe to come off final line that day was VIN# 91000529 and the last 2009 coupe was VIN # 9Y000550.

The third batch of 2010 pilots came off final line around 7 AM, Tuesday, 5/ 26/09, Here are the VINS for these third batch of nine 2010 pilots.

AY100019 Solstice convertible dark labyrinth automatic
AY100020 Solstice coupe red, manual
AY100021 Solstice convertible dark labyrinth automatic
AY100022 and 1AZ1107070 Solstice coupe SANTIAGO TEAL GXP automatic
AY100023 and 1AZ1107071 Solstice coupe GXP Kinetic Blue, manual.
AY100024 Solstice coupe dark labyrinth, manual
AY100025 and 1AZ1107073 Solstice coupe white GXP automatic
AY100026 Solstice coupe GXP merlot, manual.
AY100028 and 1AZ1107076 Saturn Sky dark labyrinth automatic. This was the last 2010 Sky built and as well as last Sky ever made.

For time line reference: The first 2009 Solstice Coupe off final line today 5/26/09 was VIN# 9Y000678 and the first regular production car after these last 2010 pilots was a 2009 Solstice coupe, VIN 9Y000680.

5-28-2009 Thursday: Made the last three of the thirty 2010 pilot’s cars today. These three bust jobs got on final line at about 10:10 AM and drove off final line around 1:40 PM. They were as follows:

AY100029 Solstice convertible Kinetic blue GXP, manual & spoiler. A bust in job.

AY100030 Solstice convertible GXP Kinetic blue, manual . This was the last 2010 Pontiac Solstice built. A bust in job. Note that this is the highest and last VIN for any 2010 Kappa but was not the last Kappa built. It should have been but fate changed it. This is the result of being a bust job.

Last but not least: AY100027 Opel LT tarnish Turbo, manual .
It has the distinction of being the last 2010 Kappa car built. This was a bust in job. All 2010 Kappa production ended this day, Thursday 5/28/2009.

The last Pontiac Solstice coupe made was built on Tuesday, July 28, 2009. It was a Red 2009 GXP coupe, automatic trans, VIN# 9Y001152. No Solstice coupes were built after this car. Behind this coupe was the last Pontiac Solstice ever made, a 2009 Silver convertible, VIN# 9Y108138. Solstice production ceased with this last convertible, VIN# 9Y108138.

By my notes regarding all 2010 pilot cars there were 12 Solstice coupes, 11 Solstice convertibles, 5 Sky’s and 2 Opel’s. Hope this info helps out regarding Kappa statistics.

Last edited by Markkk; 11-28-2012 at 07:23 AM. Reason: Correction for VIN’s AY100006 and AY100007
Markkk is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-27-2012, 11:52 AM
AKA SolWhat?
 
DaveOC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Running Wisconsin
Posts: 8,473
Garage
Wow, Markkk, that was a remarkable post. I'm copying that entire post to another file for posterity and so I can find it again when I need it.

The list I had previously showed 12 Sol Coupes, 8 Sol convertible, 8 Skys and 2 Opel GTs.

Do you have any idea as to the final disposition of the 2 Opel GTs? They seem to have fallen into a hole in the ground from which no information has escaped.

Thanks again. You have been an invaluable resource for this forum.



On the Hanging Limb Highway - 2012
1st 1K - #741
DaveOC is offline  
post #3 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-27-2012, 11:53 AM
Member
 
sirwm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Shamong, NJ
Posts: 2,308
thanks - interesting to read...

wr

__________________
Mean 2007 NA
2007 Solstice ordered on 8/24/06 - Picked up on 12/12/06 - Totaled on 6/12/10

Mean 2008 GXP
Acquired 6/21/10 with 1275 miles on it - Summer Solstice !

Deep 2009 NA Coupe
Acquired 11/2/13 with 1040 miles on it
sirwm is offline  
post #4 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-27-2012, 11:54 AM
Member
 
TomatoSoup's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Gaithersburg, MD
Posts: 5,579
I'd seen some of this info before, but never with so much detail. Nice! Thanks!

Do you happen to know if there were any feature or detail differences between the 2009 MY and the 2010's? Or were they the same, but just different paperwork?

Owner of "Campbelle", a Brazen 2008 GXP ... with mods piling up...
TomatoSoup is offline  
post #5 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-27-2012, 12:19 PM
Moderator
 
rob the elder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Parker Colorado, USA, directly above the center of the earth
Posts: 12,423
Great job. Can you tell us what you were doing at the factory?

Rob the Elder

Punisher's Daddy
Green Dragon's chief mechanic
Carol's husband for 48 years

Secretary Rocky Mountain Solstice and Sky Club
Punisher's story
http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f62/punisher-65168/
Punisher thread index
http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f...ml#post1765649

rob the elder is online now  
post #6 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-27-2012, 12:45 PM
AKA SolWhat?
 
DaveOC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Running Wisconsin
Posts: 8,473
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by Markkk View Post
AY100003 Solstice GXP convertible deep blue manual
AY100004 Solstice GXP convertible red automatic
AY100005 Solstice GXP convertible (did not record body color) manual
Markkk,

I show all three of the above vehicles as Saturn Skys, which accounts for the difference in totals between your info and mine.

I have full VIN numbers and just reran them through the system and all three came back as Saturn Sky.

Again, thanks for this outstanding information.



On the Hanging Limb Highway - 2012
1st 1K - #741
DaveOC is offline  
post #7 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-27-2012, 02:15 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 1,143
Great info, thank you. The 027 Opel is tarnish. What color is that? Or maybe a result of not painted
jeff465 is offline  
post #8 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-27-2012, 07:20 PM
AKA SolWhat?
 
DaveOC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Running Wisconsin
Posts: 8,473
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by jeff465 View Post
Great info, thank you. The 027 Opel is tarnish. What color is that? Or maybe a result of not painted
LT Tarnish = Silver Metallic



On the Hanging Limb Highway - 2012
1st 1K - #741
DaveOC is offline  
post #9 of 25 (permalink) Old 11-28-2012, 07:33 AM Thread Starter
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Posts: 29
My company supplied the front & rear fascias and its spoiler for all the Kappa cars. Later we supplied the fixed and removable roofs & close-out panel for Solstice coupes. Close out panel was called the spoiler at the plant. Attached to back of fixed roof, above fascia. Wasn’t one but that’s what the workers named it.
Markkk is offline  
post #10 of 25 (permalink) Old 09-16-2013, 04:04 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: "The Heart Of It All"
Posts: 22
I now own AY100005 and I can tell you it is indeed a SKY Redline auto, black with red leather, with the USB Radio and the remote start.
07SKY10 is offline  
post #11 of 25 (permalink) Old 10-29-2016, 01:05 PM
Member
 
RedOne07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,023
Dave mentioned this thread elsewhere. Otherwise I might have never found it. Thanks Dave ! & Mark ! Great info !

I compared the VIN in this post with the Master Vin List. Which lists US sold Solstice and Sky only, no Opel GT, no Daewoo G2X, no Solstice exports, no Sky exports.

I would expect the pilot Sky and pilot Solstice to be in this (master) list because I kind of assumed those would all be sold in US.

Assuming Mark has very reliable info, this comparison might give us some idea how reliable the production dates in the master vin list are.

The quoted text is in BLUE

Only compared VIN/Brand/Model/Style/Date and not Transmission/Color/Etcetera. Did notice there are several differences in transmission, but did not list those.

The first batch of 2010 pilots came off the final line on Tuesday, April 21, 2009 at 8 AM. The first 2010 pilot was a Solstice Coupe in Kinetic blue VIN # 9AY100001. Here’s the list.

AY100001 Solstice Coupe in Kinetic blue manual. Drove off final line at 8 AM. Listed Apr 21
AY100002 Solstice GXP coupe red, automatic Listed Apr 21
AY100003 Solstice GXP convertible deep blue manual Listed as Sky Apr 23
AY100004 Solstice GXP convertible red automatic Listed as Sky Apr 23
AY100005 Solstice GXP convertible (did not record body color) manual Listed as Sky Apr 23
AY100006 GXP convertible red automatic (see correction below) Listed May 4
AY100007 GXP convertible 67U silver automatic (see correction below) Listed May 4


AY100006 Daewoo G2X red turbo automatic Not listed, as expected
AY100007 Daewoo G2X silver 67U turbo automatic Not listed, as expected


For reference a regular production, black 2009 Solstice
GXP coupe, automatic trans, VIN# 9Y000178 immediately preceded the
2010 Solstice Coupe in Kinetic blue, VIN # 9AY100001.
178 Listed Apr 20

The second batch of 2010 pilots came off final line on Monday afternoon, May 4 and into Tuesday morning, May 5, 2009. Ten pilot cars were in a row for this batch.

These 10 pilots were preceded by a 2009 solstice Coupe VIN 91000355. Not listed

This second batch of 2010 pilot VIN numbers were as follows:

AY000008 Solstice GXP coupe black labyrinth manual AY100008 listed May 5
AY000009 Solstice GXP coupe black labyrinth automatic AY100008 listed May 5
AY000010 Solstice GXP convertible hydro blue, manual. AY100010 Listed May 5
AY000011 Sky black labyrinth turbo automatic AY100011 Listed May 5
AY000012 Sky black, manual AY100012 Listed May 5
AY000013 Sky black turbo automatic AY100013 Listed May 5
AY000014 Sky black labyrinth turbo, manual AY100013 Listed May 5
AY000015 Opel black turbo, manual Not listed, as expected
AY000016 Solstice GXP coupe Merlot automatic AY100016 Listed May 5
AY000018 Solstice GXP coupe Kinetic Blue, manual AY100018 Listed May 5

Note there was no car between AY000016 and AY000018 as this was a bust out job,

Should have been a AY000017 Pontiac solstice white
automatic. Wednesday, May 13, 2009. A “bust in” a white
Pontiac solstice convertible automatic, VIN # AY000017 was on the
assembly line, near final line.
AY100017 Listed May 14

The last Mecca tour was held on Friday, May 15, 2009. The first 2009 Solstice coupe to come off final line that day was VIN# 91000529 9Y000529 Listed May 15

and the last 2009 coupe was VIN # 9Y000550. Not listed

The third batch of 2010 pilots came off final line around 7 AM, Tuesday, May 26 / 09, Here are the VINS for these third batch of nine 2010 pilots.

AY100019 Solstice convertible dark labyrinth automatic Listed May 26
AY100020 Solstice coupe red, manual Listed May 26
AY100021 Solstice convertible dark labyrinth automatic Listed May 26
AY100022 and 1AZ1107070 Solstice coupe SANTIAGO TEAL GXP automatic Not Listed
AY100023 and 1AZ1107071 Solstice coupe GXP Kinetic Blue, manual. Listed May 26
AY100024 Solstice coupe dark labyrinth, manual Listed May 26
AY100025 and Listed May 26
1AZ1107073 Solstice coupe white GXP automatic Not sure what to make of this VIN
AY100026 Solstice coupe GXP merlot, manual. Listed May 26
AY100028 and Listed May 26
1AZ1107076 Saturn Sky dark labyrinth automatic. This was the last
2010 Sky built and as well as last Sky ever made.
Not sure what to make of this VIN

For time line reference: The first 2009 Solstice Coupe off final line today Max 26 / 09 was VIN# 9Y000678 Not Listed

and the first regular production car after these last 2010 pilots was a 2009 Solstice coupe, VIN 9Y000680. Listed May 26

May 28 2009 Thursday: Made the last three of the thirty 2010 pilot’s cars today. These three bust jobs got on final line at about 10:10 AM and drove off final line around 1:40 PM. They were as follows:

AY100029 Solstice convertible Kinetic blue GXP, manual & spoiler. A bust in job. Listed May 28

AY100030 Solstice convertible GXP Kinetic blue, manual . This was the last 2010 Pontiac Solstice built. A bust in job. Note that this is the highest and last VIN for any 2010 Kappa but was not the last Kappa built. It should have been but fate changed it. This is the result of being a bust job. Listed May 28

Last but not least: AY100027 Opel LT tarnish Turbo, manual .
It has the distinction of being the last 2010 Kappa car built. This was a bust in job. All 2010 Kappa production ended this day, Thursday May 28 2009.
Not listed, as expected

The last Pontiac Solstice coupe made was built on Tuesday, July 28, 2009. It was a Red 2009 GXP coupe, automatic trans, VIN# 9Y001152. Listed july 28

No Solstice coupes were built after this car. Behind this coupe was the last Pontiac Solstice ever made, a 2009 Silver convertible, VIN# 9Y108138. Solstice production ceased with this last convertible, VIN# 9Y108138. Listed July 28

Last edited by RedOne07; 10-29-2016 at 02:40 PM.
RedOne07 is offline  
post #12 of 25 (permalink) Old 10-29-2016, 02:26 PM
Member
 
ChopTop's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Hooterville, MI
Posts: 3,922
Red-Brilliant job. You guys are taken tracking Kappa's to the next level.

.
.
.
.
.
Mr & Mrs ChopTop's 09 Fastback & 06 Vert Mods thread:http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f...session-75468/ Original join date; Oct 2005 under LowLife handle.
ChopTop is offline  
post #13 of 25 (permalink) Old 10-29-2016, 02:35 PM
AKA SolWhat?
 
DaveOC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Running Wisconsin
Posts: 8,473
Garage
Markkk was a bit confused in post #1, as he mentioned later, he was doing this listing from his notes three years later.

03, 04, and 05 off the line were Skys, not Solstices. He mentions a couple of Daewoos, but there were no 2010 Daewoos made at Wilmington, Since there was so little demand for the Daewoo version from S. Korea, I assume the GM had axed that version of the Kappa.

I have an independent listing of the 30 VINs of the 2010s, and ran them all on Compnine, and they all decoded as per the NHTSA listing. Even the Opel GTs decoded relatively recently, which was surprising.

These were passed to me from a source inside GM who was familiar with the plant and who had access to GMVIS. Since VIN access to GMVIS is by the last 8 of the VIN, it wasn't too tough to enter AY100001 through AY100030 into the system and print the results.

While Markkk was a bit confused as to the make, he was usually quite accurate when it cam to dates, so if he says it came off the line on 4/21, versus GM's 4/23 date, I went with Markkk's info.

GM's info on build date usually means "ready to ship" to dealers. There was a bit of QC between the time a car cam off the line to it being "ready to ship."



.



On the Hanging Limb Highway - 2012
1st 1K - #741
DaveOC is offline  
post #14 of 25 (permalink) Old 10-29-2016, 02:44 PM
AKA SolWhat?
 
DaveOC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Running Wisconsin
Posts: 8,473
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by RedOne07 View Post
No Solstice coupes were built after this car. Behind this coupe was the last Pontiac Solstice ever made, a 2009 Silver convertible, VIN# 9Y108138. Solstice production ceased with this last convertible, VIN# 9Y108138. Listed July 28
I'll share a little trivia about this last of the last Pontiac Solstice Convertible.

9Y108138 was as near identical to 6Y000001 as it could be, same color, same interior, same options (as close to a 2006 as fed safety standards could make it). The car had line workers signatures everywhere, and the line workers signed a Solstice Book, and there was a Silver diecast that went along with it.



.



On the Hanging Limb Highway - 2012
1st 1K - #741
DaveOC is offline  
post #15 of 25 (permalink) Old 10-29-2016, 02:53 PM
Member
 
RedOne07's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Europe
Posts: 1,023
Any comments on VIN 1AZ1107073 and 1AZ1107076 ?

I am not sure what to make of those ?!?
RedOne07 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Pontiac Solstice Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome