This is such a garbage policy, and it harms the community. There's not a lot of aftermarket support for these cars, OEM parts are drying up, and it's not like KAPPADAPT.com is in here spamming or self-promoting.
If forum members find a source for a part, moderators shouldn't go in and remove the information just because the source isn't paying to advertise (I am not saying that Kappadapt or others should be allowed to post advertisements.) AutoGuide isn't some shoestring operation, and the owner of the forum isn't operating the place out of pocket because they're a member of the community. That ended years ago when the forum was sold.
This happened with RPM Rollbars, where a user on the forum had a rollbar made, and it seemed nearly impossible for him to tell anyone where he had it fabricated without having the post removed. It's happened with others, too, I think.
Forum moderators- are you paid? I'd be surprised if you're anything but volunteers, and if so, why defend AutoGuide's interests at the expense of the community of Solstice owners who have such limited parts availability? We should be nurturing people who dip their toes into making us model-specific parts; there are so few of these cars, that it's very difficult to find any non-generic parts for us, and none of the big manufacturers are gonna bother. Stop chasing the new ones away before we have nothing.
I have removed the url again because it is against forum policy. The company name can be googled if members are interested.
Editing posts does not require contacting the originator .... The reason for editing is always at the bottom of the post - thus the reason for no direct contact.
Could not agree more with username this policy seems like nitpicking to me . I went on the website and it's not like this company is in direct competition with any vendor as far as products go .I do a lot of research into products that are related to a Solstice or Echotec engine and have found products that sometimes could help a member so I should not post this information ? . I have been a member since 2010 and have watched many members who I thought would be long time owners leave the forum . Our cars are getting older and Pontiac has been out of business for a number of years many people are not even aware that Pontiac made a Solstice it looks like it's going the way of the Fiero and sooner than later the products will slowly start disappearing . .Bottom line is I'm all for any information that's out there that can be used for our cars and as long as we our not stepping on a supporting vendor's toes the information should be available to everyone .
My strategy is to fill in the blanks and not so much compete with DDM, ZZP, Werks, BNR. I actually approached three of them last year to distribute the [insert custom manufactured product here], only one of them has responded and has put in orders. I use the same strategy for my monetized youtube channel, I find missing pieces as far as Youtube content, then fill this void with good quality content...and it works pretty good so that is what I am trying in real life.
So now what is now happening, instead of paying AG any money to market the products on their forums, I am giving fellow members free products to trial, and if they want they can make an organic post to talk about it. I see it as win win, member gets free stuff and I get around the anti-small guy rules...hopefully if the product is worthy and the owner is happy enough to talk about it. From my understanding, product reviews for non-supporting vendor products are allowed.
Another thing is, I feel like I am going to get banned for just talking about this stuff. Part of me says, "hit da AG buttons" to see the true colors of the forum but it would really suck to get banned. If I do get banned, well AG owns it they can do whatever they please, so nothing I can really do except shut up and get in line.
Guys,
please don't make this a bigger deal than it needs to be. You are absolutely free to share information on alternative sources of stuff for our cars. I have done it for years.
But we don't own this forum and the guys who do own it have established a set of rules that we need to follow.
There are lots of ways to share information about new cool stuff and suppliers without breaking the forum rules. Lets just keep sharing info and not turn this into a bitch session when it should be more about what kind of stuff the new guy provides and might provide in the future.
Red, forum administration has a different protocol than interpersonal relationships. The format of the editing includes the reason for the editing and historically when the admin fills out the reason that meets the standard for explanation.
Thanks for the post, you saved me the effort of saying about the same thing. Not all the users on this forum were around back when we went through this same line of questioning and answers the last time around, or the time before that, or the time before that, etc.
Frankly, I don't know why anyone would put up with the headaches involved with being a moderator or administrator. It must have something to do with all those benefits you derive from volunteering for the "job".
Dave,
I used to be free to bitch and praise to my hearts content. Then Mom asked me to help out and I now have to reign in my normal salty turn of phrase.
But I personally do it because I really like the people on this forum and enjoy the daily ebb and flow of discussion and information exchange. It keeps me interested for sure.
In summary, everyone is entitled to free speech. Say what you want on the street corner, say what you want in your e-mail, say what you want on your web site.
It's a free market place and if I were to pay to be a supporting vendor on a website, I would hope my product or business would be given some preferential treatment in exchange for my money. If someone has a better product then I'd better keep up with the evolving technology or risk obsolescence.
And Rob, you still "bitch" - you just do it more eloquently now.
BTW, just ordered a clutch cable for the White Lightning Charity build. Here and there I pay for stuff that is not too expensive on these charity builds. Looks like a great product.
Let us know how the install goes. I would love one of those but Im not up to pulling the tranny to install it.
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