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If I'm reading and interpreting the parts list correctly (and I'm not sure I am), all vehicles affected require one of the 3 Seal Kits (our Solstice getting Seal Kit 19179933), and all vehicles require 89021677 - Lubricant, Gr Synthetic, SAE 75W-90, but not all with Limited-Slip Differential will get the 01052358 - Lubricant, because it's only 'as needed'.
Based on the incomplete listing, there is a misinterpretation.
Not all vehicles may require Axle Lubricant.
If the fluid was drained during the recall procedure, a bottle plus (or 2 quanity) would be required.
If the fluid was not drained, it would depend on if the differential is actually low. The tech would check fluid level at the end of the procedure. Top off, and charge, as needed.
If fluid was just topped of then the service procedures in the service manual do not call for the addition of additive, to vehicles equipped with Limited Slip.
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I spoke to the dealer this morning. They did not drain the differential fluid. He simply changed the seal. The tech said they lost very little lubricant and simply topped the differential off.
Word to the wise. If you're going in for the recall, then don't assume they'll change your differential fluid. If you want it done, then you'll need to insist before the work is started. I wish I had.
So just as an added note for those who are wondering ... were the differential drained and the additive not added back to an LSD rear what you would probably feel first in normal driving was the clutch packs binding during turning could even introduce some wheel hop.
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So just as an added note for those who are wondering ... were the differential drained and the additive not added back to an LSD rear what you would probably feel first in normal driving was the clutch packs binding during turning could even introduce some wheel hop.
That would be the first indication. But it won't necessarily happen on the drive home. And may never be noticed. As long as additive laced fluid was between teh linings and teh complete pack wasn't replaced the diff might chatter a little but probably would not blow up under normal driving conditions.
Now it is something that informed owners are armed with, the information that there is no automatic fluid change - and that less than initial ratio of additive to fluid is acceptable.
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That would be the first indication. But it won't necessarily happen on the drive home. And may never be noticed. As long as additive laced fluid was between teh linings and teh complete pack wasn't replaced the diff might chatter a little but probably would not blow up under normal driving conditions.
Now it is something that informed owners are armed with, the information that there is no automatic fluid change - and that less than initial ratio of additive to fluid is acceptable.
Here's a bit of info .... When I asked my trusted mechanic if he planned on draining the differential his response was "Your car isn't even broken in yet ... I don't change the diff oil unless the car has at least 5k miles on the differential."
SO .... I suspect that is why the SB states the fluid may or may not be replaced and that decision is left up to the technician.
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No mention of additive. So much for not listing the gear lubricant in the payment section. Perhaps the dealer needed more lubricant than what was called for in the recall?
Mine said the same thing. I questioned it and was told the additive was in the lubricant already.
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does anybody know if the pinion nut needs to be removed to get at the pinion seal? If so the pinion bearing preload will be gone. How does the dealer set the pre load back up again? This is very important to the diff life.
You guys have played with the front wheel bearings right? You set the bearing nut to minimum bearing peload so the bearing just touches the bearing cup. Right? this will give you max life on the wheel bearings
On the pinion bearings (inner and outer) the preload needs to set at 1000 to 1500 lbs of force generated by the pinion nut.
How does the dealer set the pre load if the pinion nut was removed?
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does anybody know if the pinion nut needs to be removed to get at the pinion seal?
There is a nut that retains the drive flange that is removed and replaced as part of the updated pinion oil seal replacement procedures, which are also the recall procedures.
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Mine said the same thing. I questioned it and was told the additive was in the lubricant already.
The Corvette and XLR are currently the only GM cars that use the new Dextron LS Lubricant that includes the friction modifier additive.
The lubricant called for in the recall procedures, and listed on your RO, requires the additive be added on Limited Slip Differential equipped Solstices.
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I did some more research, here's the parts list for the recall:
Part Number - Description
19179933 - Seal Kit, Diff Drv P/Gr (CTS, STS, SRX, Solstice, SKY, GT) (Note: STS AWD & SRX AWD will also require P/N 19179936)
19179934 - Seal Kit, Diff Drv P/Gr (STS-V, CTS-V)
19179936 - Seal Kit, Frt Diff Drv P/Gr (STS AWD, SRX AWD) (Note: STS AWD & SRX AWD will also require P/N 19179933)
89021677 - Lubricant, Gr Synthetic, SAE 75W-90
01052358 - Lubricant, Limited-Slip Differential (if needed)
OK I did the recall today. My bill lists the following parts:
1 19179933 Seal Kit 5.545
1 1052358 ADDT 8.800
2 89021677 Gear Lubr 8.800
So I guess this looks like "all the right stuff", correct? (Since I don't have a STS....)
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how long des it take to relace the seal
The recall notification letter should have given an estimated time.
But for Solstices, the service time allowance is 2 hours for the basic repair, and additional 1 hour 36 minutes for 2007 models equipped with the driveline support.
Of course it will take time to process you at the dealership, and maybe even additional time depending on the situation that day.
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The recall notification letter should have given an estimated time.
But for Solstices, the service time allowance is 2 hours for the basic repair, and additional 1 hour 36 minutes for 2007 models equipped with the driveline support.
Of course it will take time to process you at the dealership, and maybe even additional time depending on the situation that day.
Don't forget SD .... many dealers DID NOT have the Seal Kit in stock so they are having to order them.
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so they are having to order them.
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