Same Problem Over and Over

[SamGuy24]

This is the 3rd time this happens in a month I get engine Light On first time they said it was just a Glitch they turned it off, then it happend again they told me it was Clamp that got dissconected They fix it and now again !!!! I start to really hate american car Can somebody Help what to do should i give back the car? what to do Help?

[Lumix]

Holy cow...give back a car over a "check engine" light?
Don't you think you're over-reacting a bit? I know it's frustrating, but why not try a different shop first.
Returning a car is FAR harder than it sounds. -Lumix

[AtomicMan]

I agree. We don't know what the trouble with the car is yet - but I'd bet a lot of money whatever the problem was never got fixed in the first place. It's the dealer who is dragging their feet. Try another dealer. Remember, it can be any GM dealer - doesn't have to be ponitac.

I also wouldn't rush to blame all American cars because of one check engine light.

[ChrisBlair]

Some engine lights are because of X number of anomalies per million cycles.

Don;t forget that the devil's brew they call gasoline nowadays can cause trouble with fuel systems. Without knowing what's been done to the car, how you drive, and what the dealer service techs have done to check the trouble out, I can't guess as to the nature of the problem

But as suggested, I would take the car to another dealer. if the problem persists, demand to speak to the region manager and tell him it's his job to make your car right

There will always be a certain number of cars with problems, no matter how good or bad the reputation of the manuafacturer. General Motors is a car maker with good quality now. This isn't the 1980s, anymore, Samguy

For example, GM's Buick division is now tied for 1st place in Quality, with Acura. Honda, Mitsubishi, Kia, Mercedes, etc, are inferior makes to part of GM right now in terms of quality. Buick is making better quality cars than Honda. I know it's difficult to understand

Since GM runs as a Corporate maker nowadays, and not as individual divisions, you can expect the rest of GM to have pretty good quality as well
This engine light of yours can be many things. I just recently had a similar problem with a GM, and it was an check engine light that was "fixed" three times. There was a bad wire, that somehow got rubbed and damaged.

The trouble is that the computer diagnosics won't pick that up all the time, they had to look at it a number of times before a tech spotted the torn wire. It was nobody's "fault" but it was frustrating

[diamoney]

Originally Posted by AtomicMan Try another dealer. Remember, it can be any GM dealer - doesn't have to be ponitac.

Not necessarily....

I believe the present position is that GM IS requiring same brand for warranty work with very few exceptions.

[MomsSol]

Originally Posted by SamGuy24 This is the 3rd time this happens in a month I get engine Light On first time they said it was just a Glitch they turned it off, then it happend again they told me it was Clamp that got dissconected They fix it and now again !!!! I start to really hate american car Can somebody Help what to do should i give back the car? what to do Help?

Take a deep breath .... ahhh ... now - have they put on your work orders the CODES that the engine light was throwing?

Trust me I KNOW how frustrating it can be having multiple issues with a car (I mean really TRUST ME) ... but 3 check engine lights ... with different reasons will NOT give you cause for a "Lemon Law" (I don't believe).

The suggestions of taking the car to another dealer is a very good one - maybe even try to find a Larger Dealership that perhaps has a better customer service rating.

How old is your Solstice? How many miles? What octane gas have you been using? Generally from the same station?

[Small Dealer]

Originally Posted by SamGuy24 This is the 3rd time this happens in a month I get engine Light On first time they said it was just a Glitch they turned it off, then it happend again they told me it was Clamp that got dissconected They fix it and now again !!!! I start to really hate american car Can somebody Help what to do should i give back the car? what to do Help?

So you have the same no power and hissing noise that you have when the clamp came loose and set the P0101? Or has it been raining again?

[Fformula88]

Originally Posted by SamGuy24 This is the 3rd time this happens in a month I get engine Light On first time they said it was just a Glitch they turned it off, then it happend again they told me it was Clamp that got dissconected They fix it and now again !!!! I start to really hate american car Can somebody Help what to do should i give back the car? what to do Help?

Relax and take it to a different Pontiac dealer. It's not a sign that you bought a bad car. Sounds to me like the problem is that your dealer just isn't diagnosing it correctly.

That said, I have to let you in on a secret. Foreign cars have check engine lights too, and they do turn on! No car is perfect. A light is a notification that something isn't quite right, but it is not a disaster either.

Your car will be ok.

[Small Dealer]

Not every code sets the Service Engine Soon light, and some of these codes are engine or transmission specific.

But here is part one of the possible different things that could appear to be "the same problem over and over".

P0010 Intake Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Control Circuit P0011 Intake Camshaft Position System Performance P0013 Exhaust Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Control Circuit P0014 Exhaust Camshaft Position System Performance P0016 Crankshaft Position-Intake Camshaft Position Correlation P0017 Crankshaft Position-Exhaust Camshaft Position Correlation P0030 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Sensor 1 P0031 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Low Voltage Sensor 1 P0032 HO2S Heater Control Circuit High Voltage Sensor 1 P0033 Turbocharger Bypass Valve Solenoid Control Circuit P0034 Turbocharger Bypass Valve Solenoid Control Circuit Low Voltage P0035 Turbocharger Bypass Valve Solenoid Control Circuit High Voltage P0036 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Sensor 2 P0037 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Low Voltage Sensor 2 P0038 HO2S Heater Control Circuit High Voltage Sensor 2 P0053 HO2S Heater Resistance Sensor 1 P0054 HO2S Heater Resistance Sensor 2 P0068 Throttle Body Airflow Performance P0087 Fuel Rail Pressure Too Low P0088 Fuel Rail Pressure Too High P0089 Fuel Pressure Regulator Performance P0090 Fuel Pressure Regulator Control Circuit P0091 Fuel Pressure Regulator Solenoid 1 Control Circuit Low Voltage P0092 Fuel Pressure Regulator Solenoid 1 Control Circuit High Voltage P0096 Intake Air Temperature Sensor 2 Performance P0097 Intake Air Temperature Sensor 2 Circuit Low Voltage P0098 Intake Air Temperature Sensor 2 Circuit High Voltage P0099 Intake Air Temperature Sensor 2 Circuit Intermittent P0100 Mass Air Flow Sensor Circuit P0101 Mass Air Flow Sensor Performance P0102 Mass Air Flow Sensor Circuit Low Frequency P0103 Mass Air Flow Sensor Circuit High Frequency P0106 Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Performance P0107 Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P0108 Manifold Absolute Pressure Sensor Circuit High Voltage P0112 Intake Air Temperature Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P0113 Intake Air Temperature Sensor Circuit High Voltage P0114 Intake Air Temperature Sensor Circuit Intermittent P0115 Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Circuit P0116 Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Performance. P0117 Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P0118 Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Circuit High Voltage P0119 Engine Coolant Temperature Sensor Circuit Intermittent P0120 Throttle Position Sensor Circuit P0121 Throttle Position Sensor Performance P0122 Throttle Position Sensor 1 Circuit Low Voltage P0123 Throttle Position Sensor 1 Circuit High Voltage P0125 Engine Coolant Temperature Insufficient For Closed Loop Fuel Control P0128 Engine Coolant Temperature Below Thermostat Regulating Temperature P0130 HO2S Circuit Closed Loop Performance Sensor 1 P0131 HO2S Circuit Low Voltage Sensor 1 P0132 HO2S Circuit High Voltage Sensor 1 P0133 HO2S Slow Response Sensor 1 P0134 HO2S Circuit Insufficient Activity Sensor 1 P0135 HO2S Heater Performance Sensor 1 P0137 HO2S Circuit Low Voltage Sensor 2 P0138 HO2S Circuit High Voltage Sensor 2 P0139 HO2S Slow Response Sensor 2 P0140 HO2S Circuit Insufficient Activity Sensor 2 P0141 HO2S Heater Performance Sensor 2 P0171 Fuel Trim System Lean P0172 Fuel Trim System Rich P0192 Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P0193 Fuel Rail Pressure Sensor Circuit High Voltage P0201 Injector 1 Control Circuit P0202 Injector 2 Control Circuit P0203 Injector 3 Control Circuit P0204 Injector 4 Control Circuit P0218 Transmission Fluid Overtemperature P0220 Throttle Position Sensor 2 Circuit P0221 Throttle Position Sensor 2 Performance P0222 Throttle Position Sensor 2 Circuit Low Voltage P0223 Throttle Position Sensor 2 Circuit High Voltage P0230 Fuel Pump Relay Control Circuit P0234 Turbocharger Engine Overboost P0236 Turbocharger Boost System Performance P0237 Turbocharger Boost Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P0238 Turbocharger Boost Sensor Circuit High Voltage P0243 Turbocharger Wastegate Solenoid Control Circuit P0245 Turbocharger Wastegate Solenoid Control Circuit Low Voltage P0246 Turbocharger Wastegate Solenoid Control Circuit High Voltage P0261 Injector 1 Control Circuit Low Voltage P0262 Injector 1 Control Circuit High Voltage P0264 Injector 2 Control Circuit Low Voltage P0265 Injector 2 Control Circuit High Voltage P0267 Injector 3 Control Circuit Low Voltage P0268 Injector 3 Control Circuit High Voltage P0270 Injector 4 Control Circuit Low Voltage P0271 Injector 4 Control Circuit High Voltage P0299 Turbocharger Engine Underboost P0300 Engine Misfire Detected P0301 Cylinder 1 Misfire Detected P0302 Cylinder 2 Misfire Detected P0303 Cylinder 3 Misfire Detected P0304 Cylinder 4 Misfire Detected P0315 Crankshaft Position System Variation Not Learned P0324 Knock Sensor Module Performance P0325 Knock Sensor Circuit P0326 Knock Sensor 1 Performance P0327 Knock Sensor 1 Circuit Low Voltage P0328 Knock Sensor 1 Circuit High Voltage P0331 Knock Sensor 2 Performance P0332 Knock Sensor 2 Circuit Low Voltage P0333 Knock Sensor 2 Circuit High Voltage P0335 Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit DTC P0335 or P0336 for the 2.4L engine P0336 Crankshaft Position Sensor Performance P0338 Crankshaft Position Sensor Circuit High Duty Cycle P0340 Intake Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit P0341 Intake Camshaft Position Sensor Performance P0342 Intake Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit low voltage P0343 Intake Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit low voltage P0351 Ignition Coil 1 Control Circuit P0352 Ignition Coil 2 Control Circuit P0353 Ignition Coil 3 Control Circuit P0354 Ignition Coil 4 Control Circuit P0365 Exhaust Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit P0366 Exhaust Camshaft Position Sensor Performance P0367 Exhaust Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P0368 Exhaust Camshaft Position Sensor Circuit High Voltage P0420 Catalyst System Low Efficiency P0442 Evaporative Emissions System Small Leak Detected P0443 Evaporative Emission Purge Solenoid Control Circuit P0446 Evaporative Emissions Vent System Performance P0449 Evaporative Emission Vent Solenoid Control Circuit P0451 Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Performance P0452 Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P0453 Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Circuit High Voltage P0454 Fuel Tank Pressure Sensor Intermittent P0455 Evaporative Emission System Large Leak P0458 Evaporative Emission Purge Solenoid Control Circuit Low Voltage P0459 Evaporative Emission Purge Solenoid Control Circuit High Voltage P0461 Fuel Level Sensor Circuit Performance P0462 Fuel Level Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P0463 Fuel Level Sensor Circuit High Voltage P0480 Cooling Fan Relay 1 Control Circuit P0481 Cooling Fan Relay 2 Control Circuit P0496 Evaporative Emission System Flow During Non-Purge P0498 Evaporative Emission Vent Solenoid Control Circuit Low Voltage P0499 Evaporative Emission Vent Solenoid Control Circuit High Voltage P0500 Vehicle Speed Sensor Circuit P0502 Vehicle Speed Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P0503 Vehicle Speed Sensor Circuit Intermittent P0506 Idle Speed Low P0507 Idle Speed High P050A Cold Start Idle Air Control System Performance P0520 Engine Oil Pressure Sensor Circuit P0532 Air Conditioning Refrigerant Pressure Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P0533 Air Conditioning Refrigerant Pressure Sensor Circuit High Voltage P0556 Brake Booster Pressure Sensor Performance P0557 Brake Booster Pressure Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P0558 Brake Booster Pressure Sensor Circuit High Voltage P0560 System Voltage P0562 System Voltage Low TCM P0563 System Voltage High TCM P0571 Cruise Control Brake Switch Circuit P0572 Brake Switch Circuit 1 Low Voltage P0573 Brake Switch Circuit 1 High Voltage P0575 Cruise Control Switch Signal Circuit P0601 Control Module Read Only Memory Transmission Control Module Read Only Memory P0602 Control Module Not Programmed Transmission Control Module Not Programmed P0603 Control Module Long Term Memory Reset Transmission Control Module Long Term Memory Reset P0604 Control Module Random Access Memory Transmission Control Module Random Access Memory P0606 Control Module Internal Performance P0607 Control Module Performance P060D Control Module Accelerator Pedal Position System Performance P0615 Starter Relay Control Circuit P0616 Starter Relay Control Circuit Low Voltage P0617 Starter Relay Control Circuit High Voltage P0621 Generator L-Terminal Circuit P0622 Generator F-Terminal Circuit P0626 Generator F-Terminal Circuit High Voltage P0627 Fuel Pump Relay Control Circuit P0628 Fuel Pump Relay Control Circuit Low Voltage P0629 Fuel Pump Relay Control Circuit High Voltage P062B Control Module Fuel Injector Control Performance P062F Control Module Long Term Memory Performance Transmission Control Module Long Term Memory Performance P0638 Throttle Actuator Control Command Performance P0641 5-Volt Reference 1 Circuit P0642 5-Volt Reference 1 Low Voltage P0643 5-Volt Reference 1 High Voltage P0645 Air Conditioning Clutch Relay Control Circuit. P0650 Malfunction Indicator Lamp Control Circuit P0651 5-Volt Reference 2 Circuit P0652 5-Volt Reference 2 Low Voltage P0653 5-Volt Reference 2 High Voltage P0685 Engine Controls Ignition Relay Control Circuit P0686 Engine Controls Ignition Relay Control Circuit Low Voltage P0687 Engine Controls Ignition Relay Control Circuit High Voltage P0689 Engine Controls Ignition Relay Feedback Circuit Low Voltage P0690 Engine Controls Ignition Relay Feedback Circuit High Voltage P0691 Cooling Fan Speed Output Circuit Low Voltage P0692 Cooling Fan Speed Output Circuit High Voltage P0697 5-Volt Reference 3 Circuit P0698 5-Volt Reference 3 Low Voltage P0699 5-Volt Reference 3 High Voltage P0700 Transmission Control Module Requested MIL Illumination P0703 Brake Switch Circuit 2 P0711 Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor Performance P0712 Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P0713 Transmission Fluid Temperature Sensor Circuit High Voltage P0716 Input Speed Sensor Performance P0717 Input Speed Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P0722 Output Speed Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P0723 Output Speed Sensor Circuit Intermittent P0727 Engine Speed No Signal P0741 Torque Converter Clutch System - Stuck Off P0742 Torque Converter Clutch System - Stuck On P0748 Pressure Control Solenoid Control Circuit P0751 1-2 Shift Solenoid Valve Performance - No First, Fourth or Fifth Gear P0752 1-2 Shift Solenoid Valve Performance - No Second or Third Gear P0756 2-3 Shift Solenoid Valve Performance - No First or Second Gear P0757 2-3 Shift Solenoid Valve Performance - No Third, Fourth or Fifth Gear P0761 4-5 Shift Solenoid Valve Performance - No Fourth Gear P0762 4-5 Shift Solenoid Valve Performance - No Fifth Gear P0833 Clutch Pedal Switch 2 Circuit P0850 Park/Neutral Position Switch Circuit P0973 1-2 Shift Solenoid Control Circuit Low Voltage P0974 1-2 Shift Solenoid Control Circuit High Voltage P0976 2-3 Shift Solenoid Control Circuit Low Voltage P0977 2-3 Shift Solenoid Control Circuit High Voltage P0979 4-5 Shift Solenoid Control Circuit Low Voltage P0980 4-5 Shift Solenoid Control Circuit High Voltage P1011 Intake Camshaft Position Actuator Park Position Circuit P1012 Intake Camshaft Position Actuator Park Position Circuit P1101 Intake Air Flow System Performance P1133 HO2S Insufficient Switching Sensor 1 P1174 Fuel Trim Cylinder Balance P1400 Cold Start Emission Reduction Control System P1516 Throttle Actuator Control Module Throttle Actuator Position Performance P1551 Throttle Valve Rest Position Not Reached During Learn P1629 Theft Deterrent Fuel Enable Signal Not Received P1631 Theft Deterrent Fuel Enable Signal Not Correct P1632 Theft Deterrent Start Disable Signal Received P167A Control Module HO2S 1 System Performance P167D Control Module Ignition Coil Internal Circuit P1682 Ignition 1 Switch Circuit 2 P1793 Wheel Speed Signal P1820 Internal Mode Switch A Circuit Low Voltage P1822 Internal Mode Switch B Circuit High Voltage P1823 Internal Mode Switch P Circuit Low Voltage P1825 Internal Mode Switch - Invalid Range P1826 Internal Mode Switch C Circuit High Voltage P1831 Pressure Control/Shift Lock Solenoid Control Circuit Low Voltage P1832 Pressure Control/Shift Lock Solenoid Control Circuit High Voltage P1833 Torque Converter Clutch/Shift Solenoid Control Circuit Low Voltage P1834 Torque Converter Clutch/Shift Solenoid Control Circuit High Voltage P1915 Internal Mode Switch Does Not Indicate Park/Neutral During Start

[Small Dealer]

Rest of the list.

P2088 Intake Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Control Circuit Low Voltage P2089 Intake Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Control Circuit High Voltage P2090 Exhaust Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Control Circuit Low Voltage P2091 Exhaust Camshaft Position Actuator Solenoid Control Circuit High Voltage P2096 Post Catalyst Fuel Trim System Low Limit Bank 1 P2097 Post Catalyst Fuel Trim System High Limit Bank 1 P2100 Throttle Actuator Control Motor Control Circuit P2101 Control Module Throttle Actuator Position Performance P2105 Throttle Actuator Control System - Forced Engine Shut-down P2107 Throttle Actuator Control Module Internal Circuit P2119 Throttle Closed Position Performance P2120 Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor 1 Circuit P2122 Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor 1 Circuit Low Voltage P2123 Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor 1 Circuit High Voltage P2125 Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor 2 Circuit P2127 Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor 2 Circuit Low Voltage P2128 Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor 2 Circuit High Voltage P2135 Throttle Position Sensor 1-2 Correlation P2138 Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor 1-2 Correlation P2146 Injector Positive Voltage Control Circuit Group 1 P2147 Injector Positive Voltage Control Circuit Group 1 Low Voltage P2148 Injector Positive Voltage Control Circuit Group 1 High Voltage P2149 Injector Positive Voltage Control Circuit Group 2 P2150 Injector Positive Voltage Control Circuit Group 2 Low Voltage P2151 Injector Positive Voltage Control Circuit Group 2 High Voltage P2152 Injector Positive Voltage Control Circuit Group 3 P2153 Injector Positive Voltage Control Circuit Group 3 Low Voltage P2154 Injector Positive Voltage Control Circuit Group 3 High Voltage P2155 Injector Positive Voltage Control Circuit Group 4 P2156 Injector Positive Voltage Control Circuit Group 4 Low Voltage P2157 Injector Positive Voltage Control Circuit Group 4 High Voltage P2176 Minimum Throttle Position Not Learned P2177 Fuel Trim System Lean at Cruise or Accel P2178 Fuel Trim System Rich at Cruise or Accel P2187 Fuel Trim System Lean at Idle P2188 Fuel Trim System Rich at Idle P2195 HO2S Signal Biased Lean Sensor 1 P2196 HO2S Signal Biased Rich Sensor 1 P2199 Intake Air Temperature Sensor 1-2 Correlation P2227 Barometric Pressure Sensor Performance P2228 Barometric Pressure Sensor Circuit Low Voltage P2229 Barometric Pressure Sensor Circuit High Voltage P2231 HO2S Signal Circuit Shorted to Heater Circuit Sensor 1 P2232 HO2S Signal Circuit Shorted to Heater Circuit Sensor 2 P2237 HO2S Pumping Current Control Circuit Sensor 1 P2243 HO2S Reference Voltage Circuit Sensor 1 P2251 HO2S Low Reference Circuit Sensor 1 P2261 Turbocharger Bypass Valve Stuck P2270 HO2S Signal Stuck Lean Sensor 2 P2271 HO2S Signal Stuck Rich Sensor 2 P2297 HO2S Performance During Decel Fuel Cut-Off Sensor 1 P2300 Ignition Coil 1 Control Circuit Low Voltage P2301 Ignition Coil 1 Control Circuit High Voltage P2303 Ignition Coil 2 Control Circuit Low Voltage P2304 Ignition Coil 2 Control Circuit High Voltage P2306 Ignition Coil 3 Control Circuit Low Voltage P2307 Ignition Coil 3 Control Circuit High Voltage P2309 Ignition Coil 4 Control Circuit Low Voltage P2310 Control Circuit High Voltage P2500 Generator L-Terminal Circuit Low Voltage P2501 Generator L-Terminal Circuit High Voltage P2535 Ignition 1 Switch Circuit High Voltage P2544 Transmission Torque Request Circuit P258A Vacuum Pump Relay Control Circuit P258B Vacuum Pump Performance P258C Vacuum Pump Relay Control Circuit Low Voltage P258D Vacuum Pump Relay Control Circuit High Voltage P2610 Control Module Ignition Off Timer Performance P2626 HO2S Pumping Current Trim Circuit Sensor 1 P2637 Transmission Torque Delivered Circuit P2763 Torque Converter Clutch Pressure Control Solenoid Control Circuit High Voltage P2764 Torque Converter Clutch Pressure Control Solenoid Control Circuit Low Voltage P2A00 HO2S Circuit Closed Loop Performance Sensor 1 P2A01 HO2S Circuit Sensor 2

[LatinVenom]

Just to answer your question SD is been raining here in South Florida pretty much every day. The rain is fairly heavy most of the time.

[lil goat]

I had mine in 3 times to find out the donut gasket between the cat and exhaust was leaking.

[ChrisBlair]

Could this be from the brake stands you've been doing, Sam?

[SamGuy24]

it's brand New 2007 2000 Miles GXP i been using the best gas the 93 I know what the prob is now after i came there for the 3rd time they really took a good look at it and said that they going to order a new part That that thing the intercooler or hose or the pipe whatver that is comes loose all the time so they said they going to install new part as soon as they order You know what i mean? The manager took care of me he said he is gonna give me a call they going to do it right

[SamGuy24]

Yeah Small dealer The same problem The said they going to do this right this time aroung i hope...