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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-09-2017, 10:17 AM Thread Starter
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Seat Sensor Recall Announced

At long last, the highly anticipated passenger seat sensor recall is a go. Owners will be contacted.
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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old 02-09-2017, 10:20 AM
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I never got a recall on this item. Dos it still exist? I took it to my local dealer and they wanted $400 for the passenger seat sensor bag repair. Same issue, or different?
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This has been discussed for a couple of weeks. A couple of our members are responsible for this recall. Kudos to them.

The recall is not yet at the stage where any actual work is being performed. The company needs to come up with a solution, probably a different or new part, then test the solution and then notify owners. That will take a while.

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Looking at the documentation that went along with the recall announcement, GM has 60 days from the date they notify the NHTSA of the recall to notify owners. Whether this means the remedy needs to be determined by then or not is unclear but there will be a notification letter sent out to owners by April 9 unless GM gets an extension.

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From NHTSA:
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Within a reasonable time after the determination of a safety defect or noncompliance, manufacturers must notify, by first-class mail, all registered owners and purchasers of the affected vehicles of the existence of the problem and give an evaluation of its risk to motor vehicle safety. The manufacturer must explain to consumers the potential safety hazards presented by the problem. Names of vehicle owners are obtained from State motor vehicle offices. The letter must also instruct consumers on how to get the problem corrected, remind them that corrections are to be made at no charge, inform them when the remedy will be available, how long the remedy will take to perform, and whom to contact if there is a problem in obtaining the free recall work.
So, no. The remedy does not have to be defined within the 60-day notification window.

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Thanks to those of you who have continued to push GM to take responsibility for this airbag sensor issue. I was told last year that GM would never issue a recall on a product they or brand they no longer manufacture. It was ridiculous to see that the Cadillac CTS owners were taken care of even though the incident rate was much lower than that off the Solstice/Sky. I am looking forward to the day when the local service manager hands me my keys back after GM finally fixes the issue with my 2009 Solstice.
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Looking at the documentation that went along with the recall announcement, GM has 60 days from the date they notify the NHTSA of the recall to notify owners. Whether this means the remedy needs to be determined by then or not is unclear but there will be a notification letter sent out to owners by April 9 unless GM gets an extension.
The date GM notified the NHTSA is January 26, 2017. The recall notification must be mailed by March 27, 2017. I'd have to agree with JohnWR (a couple of posts back) that the remedy does not have to be defined within the 60-day notification window.

By far the vast majority of current Kappa owners in the United States and Canada are not aware of this recall at this time. The only ones that know about it are forum followers and people that follow Kappa areas on social media. This has traditionally been a small minority of the Kappa owners.



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My 08 GXP passenger seatbelt light goes "on" if no one sitting there, and goes "off" there is someone in the seat. Does that mean my sensor is OK, or is that a separate issue?
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My 08 GXP passenger seatbelt light goes "on" if no one sitting there, and goes "off" there is someone in the seat. Does that mean my sensor is OK, or is that a separate issue?
I suspect you seat sensor is OK, but your indicator panel is wired backwards? Is this even possible? TS?



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ColoradoGXP: What is the passenger seat belt warning light doing under these conditions? If the passenger airbag is armed (ON) and the seat belt is not fastened the warning should be on. Is this a recent issue, or has it always done it? If it is recent, did anything else happen around the same time? Finally, do you have an airbag warning light or a service airbag message?

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Here are a few recall wet blankets:

The easiest, and maybe even cheapest, thing for GM to do is to simply agree to keep replacing failed sensors.

GM is not required to repair the entire production run:
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There is a limitation based on the age of the vehicle. In order to be eligible for a free remedy, the vehicle cannot be more than 10 years old on the date the defect or noncompliance is determined. Under the law, the age of the vehicle is calculated from the date of sale to the first purchaser. For example, if a defect is found in 2003 and a recall ordered, manufacturers are required to make the correction available at no charge only for vehicles purchased new in 1994 through 2003.
And, GM is not required to reimburse everyone who has replaced a sensor:
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Vehicle manufacturers are required to reimburse owners for costs incurred to remedy a defect based on either (1) the date NHTSA opens its Engineering Analysis, or (2) one year prior to the manufacturer’s notification of a defect to NHTSA, whichever is earlier. The closing date of eligibility for reimbursement of repair of a motor vehicle is 10 days after the manufacturer mails the last of the owner notices informing owners of a safety defect recall and cost-free remedy.

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Just re-checked and I may have confused you. If there is nobody in the passenger seat, the passenger airbag sensor light "illuminates" and says
passenger airbag "Off". On startup run-through they both light up but then quickly only the passenger airbag "Off" light stays lit.
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The normal startup procedure is for both lights to be on for maybe 8-10 seconds when the car is first powered, so you don't have a problem.

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Here are a few recall wet blankets:

The easiest, and maybe even cheapest, thing for GM to do is to simply agree to keep replacing failed sensors.

GM is not required to repair the entire production run:


And, GM is not required to reimburse everyone who has replaced a sensor:

Does this mean 2006 cars are out of luck?
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