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Old 06-18-2008, 05:54 PM
  
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[quote=russsims;708610]I agree with the comments relative to the fog lamp surround that the final design follow the GXP-R with no middle cross piece. Like the cleaner look--less busy.

The interesting element of the two main grills on the GXP-R, as slightly seen in the photo I posted earlier, is the depth of the honeycomb grill part. The grill portion is fairly deep and not some thin plastic. The depth to me adds a quality look.
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I'll deepen the grill insert to see how that looks for the main grills.
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:57 PM
  
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Old 06-18-2008, 09:32 PM
  
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Russsims is right, do it just like the GXP-R. The gunmetal metalic would look awesome on my black GXP.

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LOL good point...OK OK second set.

And I've been helping him keep production costs down by providing alternative prototype shops to use... geezz! LOL
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Old 06-19-2008, 06:23 AM
  
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I hope since the grill frame will be in two pieces that you have some sort of tongue and grove application so the seam remains together tightly.

Rudy had to do this simply because of the size of the bed for prototyping. Production intent would not be two piece, as he would have tooling created to the correct size. However, instead of paying a higher price to prototype on a larger bed (and produce the part in one piece) he split the file and will have a two piece prototype to test fit on his car.

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I'd like to add (again) that the grill inserts be removable. Snap designs are a pain in the butt.. however there are other methods that could be used to allow for removal of the grills. I would prefer the grills to be removable from the front, hence not requiring to remove the front facia... but that might not be possible. Depends though.. could you fasten the grills to the facia, and snap in the trim ring over that? That would be a clean install, front assembly sort of application. If screws are not possible, what about those metal clips GM uses... capture the grill and the facia in one of those, snap the trim ring over. Just ideas.. I haven't seen the 3D model enough (facia interface or back side of grills) to suggest better solutions.

I would make the grill for the fog lights, but if removable you could then sell with or w/o the grills for the look people want. With removable grills, people can accent and paint the grill and trim ring in any manner they so choose.

Just tossing more ideas out there... sorry!
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The CAD file has been re-built and re-submitted to a local shop for a prototytpe to be quoted out. Because of their limited bed size on the printer, I had to split the 2 part grill assembly in half which is distinguised by the obvious colors.

Hope to get a quote this week and if the price is right, then I'll take it to the next level.






Will the trim ring be chrome?
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Will the trim ring be chrome?

I haven't even gone that far with deciding the finishes for this part. I'm still in the developmental phase just to make sure the thing works, fits, and looks great on the car. If it passes all the above, then I'll have to figure out what method of manufacturing I want to take this thing to. Once that's done, then all finishes, including chrome will be considered as an option for this mod.

BTW, I'm still waiting for an official quote from the shop who produces 3d parts via printer and had told me this afternoon that they are in the middle of acquiring a new machine to replace their current one. But, he'll try to get a quote ASAP to me nonetheless. I did, however, got the impression that it will be significantly less than that of an stereolithography part.
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What school did you go to? I am attending Cal State Long Beach in the fall and I to am an industrial design major. So what work do you do at this corporation? Any advice that you can give in this field of study?

Also good to hear you are doing the fog lights too. So is your package a two piece; one piece is the frame and one piece is the mesh? I think that would add a little variety for people who decide they want the mesh or not.

I can't wait until I can do stuff like that!

hey sorry I didn't catch your thread earlier. I'll try to answer your questions appropriately.

What school did you go to?

San Jose State University

So what work do you do at this corporation?

I'm a head fixture/industrial design manager

Any advice that you can give in this field of study?

Get out while you can! Just kidding. This is a major not to be taken lightly. You're either in it all the way or not. Never half way. If you're real serious about product design, then you'll need to dedicate all that you have to survive and be successful in it.

-Research everything about anything that has to do with products, innovations, inventions, concepts, and trends.

-Stay constant and alert of what the current trend is at, where it's going, and what it may be.

-Develop a keen eye on the subtle details of things. Through the years, I've noticed that consumer products have a way of following what the latest automotive designs tend to develop. Subtle nuances of different surface and curve interaction combined with edgy geometrical shapes are hot right now.

-Be open and fluidic. What I mean is to be open to anything from model-making to CAD programming rather than just concentrating on be specialized on one aspect.

-Learn as much as you can on the manufacturing side as well as this will help develop your product development skills.

Hope this helps and let me know if I can answer any other questions for you.

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ps. Cal State Long Beach is a good school for design. However, if your love is towards automotive design, consider Art Center in Pasadena, despite the high costs.
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Old 06-25-2008, 12:35 AM
  
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hey sorry I didn't catch your thread earlier. I'll try to answer your questions appropriately.

What school did you go to?

San Jose State University

So what work do you do at this corporation?

I'm a head fixture/industrial design manager

Any advice that you can give in this field of study?

Get out while you can! Just kidding. This is a major not to be taken lightly. You're either in it all the way or not. Never half way. If you're real serious about product design, then you'll need to dedicate all that you have to survive and be successful in it.

-Research everything about anything that has to do with products, innovations, inventions, concepts, and trends.

-Stay constant and alert of what the current trend is at, where it's going, and what it may be.

-Develop a keen eye on the subtle details of things. Through the years, I've noticed that consumer products have a way of following what the latest automotive designs tend to develop. Subtle nuances of different surface and curve interaction combined with edgy geometrical shapes are hot right now.

-Be open and fluidic. What I mean is to be open to anything from model-making to CAD programming rather than just concentrating on be specialized on one aspect.

-Learn as much as you can on the manufacturing side as well as this will help develop your product development skills.

Hope this helps and let me know if I can answer any other questions for you.

rudy

ps. Cal State Long Beach is a good school for design. However, if your love is towards automotive design, consider Art Center in Pasadena, despite the high costs.

All great comments and thanks for answering my questions. Yeah I realize that Cal State Long Beach doesn't have automotive design. I also realize that Art Center has automotive design and there are one of the best design schools in the nation. I have taken some "Saturday High" classes at Art center so I have a good idea as to what it would be like to be a student there. What I see is students who get little sleep, no fun, and are worked to death.

I LOVE cars and realize that I have the ability to go to school there and complete the process. However I don't know how much of a social toll this will take on me. The other side of the coin is I can do product design at Cal State Long Beach but I only half way like products. I just enjoy coming up with ideas to make the current products better.

I know I would be successful because I have a competitive drive that makes me want to out do everyone else either way. But to enjoy my work as a product designer or to LOVE my work as a car designer after suffering design hell at art center is the question...

So do you think going to a design school like Long Beach wouldn't be much of a stretch compared to Art Center as far as work load?
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Sorry as I've been preoccupied with a recent car show and had to put this off for a bit. Spikey I sent you a PM. Please get back to me. Thanks.

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