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Old 06-18-2008, 08:36 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Solster...I love the design...how fast can we look at these being made. I want the first set!!!
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Old 06-18-2008, 12:23 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Solster...I love the design...how fast can we look at these being made. I want the first set!!!
I start the thread and you want to steal the first set from me???
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Old 06-18-2008, 02:42 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I start the thread and you want to steal the first set from me???
LOL good point...OK OK second set.
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Old 06-18-2008, 05:23 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I luv the GXP-R grills on that SEMA Solstice, I'd definitely be interested in something like that. Although I'd keep the ones on the around the foglights the same as the SEMA version, although the two porthole idea is still nicer than stock.


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Interior upgrades (ala Malibu) are on the list.. but could get sacrificed if tooling / production costs run a muck.
The interior upgrade is probably what is most needed.


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I agree with you there... I don't understand why Pontiac keeps doing this. Cadillac is the BMW competition at GM, NOT Pontiac. If they go after the correct target market, they will do fine. Marketing needs some help in this brand


I think what GM is trying to do is use BMW as a dynamic benchmark for Pontiac. Which I think is a great idea. I don't think they know BMW will still be more of an overall premium brand in the luxury segment. But I do think its a good idea to use BMW as a performance benchmark. Which is the comparison that can be made with the G8 and 5-series. Its quite obvious a 5 series costing 20 grand more will have a nicer interior.
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Rudy,
Please make those fog lights, but with one larger opening, not the two smaller ones. It looks much better and flows better with your recessed grills. It's probably more cost effective, too.
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Old 06-18-2008, 06:00 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Please make those fog lights, but with one larger opening, not the two smaller ones. It looks much better and flows better with your recessed grills. It's probably more cost effective, too.
Since this is still in the preliminary stages of design, I can do a version of one single porthole, similar to the GXP-R version, as well. I'm also interested in doing a dual light combo (projector fogs w/ angel eye rings and round turn signal light) integrated with the grill/air intake for this project which will replace the entire fog/turn signal light assembly all together. I've got some ideas in mind already but still looking for the right light components to use for this. I'll post a few more redesigns of the stock set-up first when I get more time to work on the CAD software. Thanks for the feedback, however!
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Since this is still in the preliminary stages of design, I can do a version of one single porthole, similar to the GXP-R version, as well. I'm also interested in doing a dual light combo (projector fogs w/ angel eye rings and round turn signal light) integrated with the grill/air intake for this project which will replace the entire fog/turn signal light assembly all together. I've got some ideas in mind already but still looking for the right light components to use for this. I'll post a few more redesigns of the stock set-up first when I get more time to work on the CAD software. Thanks for the feedback, however!
Make sure the fog light grills have the option to use simply with the stock light set-up and single opening like the GXP-R. I friggin' love those grills...any guess on when they will come out for sale?
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I hope since the grill frame will be in two pieces that you have some sort of tongue and grove application so the seam remains together tightly.
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I agree with the comments relative to the fog lamp surround that the final design follow the GXP-R with no middle cross piece. Like the cleaner look--less busy.

The interesting element of the two main grills on the GXP-R, as slightly seen in the photo I posted earlier, is the depth of the honeycomb grill part. The grill portion is fairly deep and not some thin plastic. The depth to me adds a quality look.


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Please make those fog lights, but with one larger opening, not the two smaller ones. It looks much better and flows better with your recessed grills. It's probably more cost effective, too.
ANd I most likely will be #3 or 4
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[quote=russsims;708610]I agree with the comments relative to the fog lamp surround that the final design follow the GXP-R with no middle cross piece. Like the cleaner look--less busy.

The interesting element of the two main grills on the GXP-R, as slightly seen in the photo I posted earlier, is the depth of the honeycomb grill part. The grill portion is fairly deep and not some thin plastic. The depth to me adds a quality look.
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I'll deepen the grill insert to see how that looks for the main grills.
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Russsims is right, do it just like the GXP-R. The gunmetal metalic would look awesome on my black GXP.

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LOL good point...OK OK second set.
And I've been helping him keep production costs down by providing alternative prototype shops to use... geezz! LOL
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I hope since the grill frame will be in two pieces that you have some sort of tongue and grove application so the seam remains together tightly.
Rudy had to do this simply because of the size of the bed for prototyping. Production intent would not be two piece, as he would have tooling created to the correct size. However, instead of paying a higher price to prototype on a larger bed (and produce the part in one piece) he split the file and will have a two piece prototype to test fit on his car.

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I'd like to add (again) that the grill inserts be removable. Snap designs are a pain in the butt.. however there are other methods that could be used to allow for removal of the grills. I would prefer the grills to be removable from the front, hence not requiring to remove the front facia... but that might not be possible. Depends though.. could you fasten the grills to the facia, and snap in the trim ring over that? That would be a clean install, front assembly sort of application. If screws are not possible, what about those metal clips GM uses... capture the grill and the facia in one of those, snap the trim ring over. Just ideas.. I haven't seen the 3D model enough (facia interface or back side of grills) to suggest better solutions.

I would make the grill for the fog lights, but if removable you could then sell with or w/o the grills for the look people want. With removable grills, people can accent and paint the grill and trim ring in any manner they so choose.

Just tossing more ideas out there... sorry!
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