For the sake of comparison, I decided to put together a list of potential competitors and their base prices (before destination, so they would compare to the GXP's $30,375 price before $620 dest).
Some others would fit, the Challenger, although it is so big I figured I'd leave it out. Some convertables, Miata PRHT (hard top) for instance.
The Solstice, in this group, is somewhat unique in it's size and weight. Most of the above are heavier and bigger, either by a little or a lot (save the Miata PRHT). Some are more touring than sport too. However, it is a pretty good list of desirable cars. The Sol coupe has it's work cut out for it in the marketplace.
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Ok, I take that back, looks like roadster and coupe have the same level of standard equipment, with the only differences being in the unique differences of the two cars.
The base Roadster and the Base Coupe do not have the same levels of standard equipment. The base Coupe includes as standard equipment, the Convenience Package (Cruise Control and Fog Lamps $395) and the Preferred Package (Power Windows, Power Door Locks, Power Mirrors and Remote Keyless Entry $625).
So that leaves the effective difference at $930 base and $890 GXP.
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The price is way to high for this car. You are better off buying a convertible and then purchasing the hartop from our Supporting Vendor Smoothline.
That would give you the "Hanna Montana Best of Both Worlds", as long as the limited time promotional price of $1,399 holds and not the retial price of $3,299. (As shown on their web site, and without any of the available options)
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For the sake of comparison, I decided to put together a list of potential competitors and their base prices (before destination, so they would compare to the GXP's $30,375 price before $620 dest).
Some others would fit, the Challenger, although it is so big I figured I'd leave it out. Some convertables, Miata PRHT (hard top) for instance.
The Solstice, in this group, is somewhat unique in it's size and weight. Most of the above are heavier and bigger, either by a little or a lot (save the Miata PRHT). Some are more touring than sport too. However, it is a pretty good list of desirable cars. The Sol coupe has it's work cut out for it in the marketplace.
Nice comparison I will not buy coupe now. However I could be wrong but I thought the v6 camaro was starting at 23k. Did they change that?
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Nice comparison I will not buy coupe now. However I could be wrong but I thought the v6 camaro was starting at 23k. Did they change that?
Yep, Camaro LS with the 300 hp DI V6 starts at $22,995, which is obviously one hell of a better buy than the Solstice coupe.
I like the looks of the Sol coupe, and have been waiting for this for years, but let's face it, $27k-$30k is unrealistic for a 4-cylinder car in this economy. Bring on the rebates, red tags, etc. etc.
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2. Do a lot of pricing research, and patiently wait until a dealer gives you the price you’re willing to pay.
3. Wait and buy used.
4. Walk away and go to the competition.
Nobody is forcing us to pay MSRP except us. I guess the best thing to do is to just plan on waiting until the end of summer for 09 discounts to begin
The base Roadster and the Base Coupe do not have the same levels of standard equipment. The base Coupe includes as standard equipment, the Convenience Package (Cruise Control and Fog Lamps $395) and the Preferred Package (Power Windows, Power Door Locks, Power Mirrors and Remote Keyless Entry $625).
So that leaves the effective difference at $930 base and $890 GXP.
Sorry, I should have been more specific as I was really just looking at and referring to the GXP coupe, which appears equally equipped. Thanks for the clarification on the base cars!
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Nice comparison I will not buy coupe now. However I could be wrong but I thought the v6 camaro was starting at 23k. Did they change that?
Good catch. I fixed my original post. I got caught using a list of coupes, base price $25K-$35K to come up with the comparison... since the base Camaro started under that, the list must have selected a higher trim level.
I like the coupe looks, and have really been chomping at the bit to get behind the wheel of one. I saw them and sat in them at the Mecca 2, and the reduced sideways visibility (at the top of the windows) had me concerned about whether it was a deal breaker or not. (Windows stop about an inch lower than on the vert, which is very noticeable at my height).
However, i was also expecting pricing to come in cheaper than the 'vert too. The fact that it is more is a little disappointing. I am not sure it changes my buying preference yet... I would still need a test drive first to see if I am even interested due to my visibility concerns. If I can find a comfortable seating position and still have acceptable visibility, then I will have to chew on price.
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I’ve always thought that vehicle pricing has intentionally been designed to confuse consumers, and we all end up seeming to do one of four things;
1. Bend over and take it.
2. Do a lot of pricing research, and patiently wait until a dealer gives you the price you’re willing to pay.
3. Wait and buy used.
4. Walk away and go to the competition.
Nobody is forcing us to pay MSRP except us. I guess the best thing to do is to just plan on waiting until the end of summer for 09 discounts to begin
very true.
I have found discounts hard to come by in this area. For a long time, inventory of Sol's has been very low, and dealers are very reluctant to deal. Last summer, I had a dealer who would not order or sell a 2008 below MSRP, even with 2009's hitting production. Later, in the fall, another dealer with a leftover 07 would not knock off more than $4000, and give me a lousy trade offer which was a few grand below KBB trade. I felt it was a rotten deal too. Now, I see used 08 GXP's at distant locations with asking prices below $20K, but locally, an 08 base coupe will be $22K used.
Long run, there is no set price on anything, especially in this market. However, a deal requires both buyer and seller to be happy with the price. That can often be the hard part.
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I may be mistaken, but it makes sense to my why the coupe costs more than the roadster.
Most cars, when designed, are designed as hard top cars. Corvettes, Trans Ams, G6's, Mustangs, and Sebrings were all designed as coupes before they were made convertibles. When going from a coupe to a convertible, extra reinforcement is needed for safety and structural rigidity, thus adding additional cost. The Solstice, on the other hand was designed as a convertible, so now the scenario is flipped. Extra money went into the cost and design of the hard top, not to mention extra materials (magnesium tops most likely attributed to this increased cost).
Regardless, the car does seem to be far too expensive for its class. To have a fully loaded Solstice come in around 34-6k is beyond ridiculous in my eyes. I'd rather have a G8 GT and keep the extra 3 grand for modifications.
I may be mistaken, but it makes sense to my why the coupe costs more than the roadster.
Most cars, when designed, are designed as hard top cars. Corvettes, Trans Ams, G6's, Mustangs, and Sebrings were all designed as coupes before they were made convertibles. When going from a coupe to a convertible, extra reinforcement is needed for safety and structural rigidity, thus adding additional cost. The Solstice, on the other hand was designed as a convertible, so now the scenario is flipped. Extra money went into the cost and design of the hard top, not to mention extra materials (magnesium tops most likely attributed to this increased cost).
Regardless, the car does seem to be far too expensive for its class. To have a fully loaded Solstice come in around 34-6k is beyond ridiculous in my eyes. I'd rather have a G8 GT and keep the extra 3 grand for modifications.
Wasn't this car originally designed as both the convertible and hard-top coupe? The first model car out was the coupe concept with the same basic shape we are seeing now.
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