Ok - final numbers are not finished yet. Wilmington has three more weeks of production.
The total number of coupes in existence will be somewhere less than about 1300. They are in two distinct groups:
group 1) consists of cars built as "saleable" before the decision is made to ship to commerce. These get used for media evaluations, Captive Test Fleet (where company assigned drivers evaluate these cars for a number of months and report issues), and other usages for company business. The production coupe you saw at an autoshow is a saleable car, so is the Wicked GXP Coupe you saw in Motortrend.
My wife's car is from this batch. There are about 100 or 101 of these cars, built toward the end of the 08 calendar year or so. The VINs for these cars will be in the 104000 to 107000 range (my estimate), and are intermixed with VINs for SKYs, Solstices, and Opel GTs.
Group 2) consists of cars built to fill customer retail orders, and released after there is a decision to ship to commerce. These vehicles started with VIN 9Y000001, as there was a decision to start the VIN sequence at 1 for the Coupes. I think VIN 000002 went to Derek D of Fast Lane Daily.
This sequence of cars were built starting in approximately mid-late April.
The schedule at this time, always subject to change, is supposed to be up to VIN 9Y001152.
I am keeping track of this info since my Wife's Wicked Solstice GXP Coupe is looking to be one of less than 1300 cars built for sale. When I find out the final numbers, I will try and post it.
almost 2/3 of the sequential VINs are GXPs/LNF engine when it is all said and done.
Hope you found that helpful. As always, these are approximates and are subject to change, but it is safe to say that less than 1300 cars are currently on the docket for seeing the light of existence.
Group 2 only includes coupes ordered by an end customer, right? Isn't there a 3rd group? The ones ordered by dealers for retail stock. Or did those get put in the sequential VINs?
Group 2 only includes coupes ordered by an end customer, right? Isn't there a 3rd group? The ones ordered by dealers for retail stock. Or did those get put in the sequential VINs?
If so, I'm very lucky: 000100
Thanks.
No, there is no distinction between a customer order and a dealer stock order. They are all considered Retail orders. Technically, a dealer "owns" the car first, even ordered cars, THEN they sell it to you. If a dealer really wants to be poopy, they can decide not to sell you a car you ordered.
I think that technically, they can even change their mind on GMS pricing at the last minute. Happened with Lotus Elises and even a Corvette or two, and Vipers in years past, and probably a Solstice or two during the post-first-1000 cars.
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No, there is no distinction between a customer order and a dealer stock order. They are all considered Retail orders. Technically, a dealer "owns" the car first, even ordered cars, THEN they sell it to you. If a dealer really wants to be poopy, they can decide not to sell you a car you ordered.
I think that technically, they can even change their mind on GMS pricing at the last minute. Happened with Lotus Elises and even a Corvette or two, and Vipers in years past, and probably a Solstice or two during the post-first-1000 cars.
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Ok - final numbers are not finished yet. Wilmington has three more weeks of production.
Funny you should post that.
Yesterday, Pontiac finally made the announement to the dealer body that they would be stopping production. They said all 2009 retail production would stop by the end of June 2009.
On the flip side.....
That explains why there are so many 2009 Coupe orders still showing the system as accepted by production control but unbuilt.
Think I will go with your post and theories vs. the Pontiac message.
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Yesterday, Pontiac finally made the announement to the dealer body that they would be stopping production. They said all 2009 retail production would stop by the end of June 2009.
On the flip side.....
That explains why there are so many 2009 Coupe orders still showing the system as accepted by production control but unbuilt.
Think I will go with your post and theories vs. the Pontiac message.
Well, my information is over a week old, since I have been on vacation (in Denver) for the last week. Nobody is currently in the plant, which is no big secret since they already announced shutdowns for Wilmington starting June 15, starting (as of last week) back up on July 13.
But then up until June 1, there was going to be a 2010 model year, too.
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Yesterday, Pontiac finally made the announement to the dealer body that they would be stopping production. They said all 2009 retail production would stop by the end of June 2009.
On the flip side.....
That explains why there are so many 2009 Coupe orders still showing the system as accepted by production control but unbuilt.
Think I will go with your post and theories vs. the Pontiac message.
I thought I read here that last solstice was completed on or around the 12th, and that the closure of the factory at the end of the month, on the 27th.
Are they opening the Wilmington factory backup? on July 13th?
Kevin
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Well, my information is over a week old, since I have been on vacation (in Denver) for the last week. Nobody is currently in the plant, which is no big secret since they already announced shutdowns for Wilmington starting June 15, starting (as of last week) back up on July 13.
But then up until June 1, there was going to be a 2010 model year, too.
GM officials said the plant is scheduled to cease operations at the end of July. Workers on Monday will begin a furlough, originally planned for June 15 through July 13. After July 13, they'll return to shut down the plant. Raut said dealers are no longer taking orders for the Solstice, Sky and Opel GT.
Ok - final numbers are not finished yet. Wilmington has three more weeks of production.
The total number of coupes in existence will be somewhere less than about 1300. They are in two distinct groups:
group 1) consists of cars built as "saleable" before the decision is made to ship to commerce. These get used for media evaluations, Captive Test Fleet (where company assigned drivers evaluate these cars for a number of months and report issues), and other usages for company business. The production coupe you saw at an autoshow is a saleable car, so is the Wicked GXP Coupe you saw in Motortrend.
My wife's car is from this batch. There are about 100 or 101 of these cars, built toward the end of the 08 calendar year or so. The VINs for these cars will be in the 104000 to 107000 range (my estimate), and are intermixed with VINs for SKYs, Solstices, and Opel GTs.
Group 2) consists of cars built to fill customer retail orders, and released after there is a decision to ship to commerce. These vehicles started with VIN 9Y000001, as there was a decision to start the VIN sequence at 1 for the Coupes. I think VIN 000002 went to Derek D of Fast Lane Daily.
This sequence of cars were built starting in approximately mid-late April.
The schedule at this time, always subject to change, is supposed to be up to VIN 9Y001152.
I am keeping track of this info since my Wife's Wicked Solstice GXP Coupe is looking to be one of less than 1300 cars built for sale. When I find out the final numbers, I will try and post it.
almost 2/3 of the sequential VINs are GXPs/LNF engine when it is all said and done.
Hope you found that helpful. As always, these are approximates and are subject to change, but it is safe to say that less than 1300 cars are currently on the docket for seeing the light of existence.
Great info! How much can you find out about the 2010 Solstice GXP Coupe Heritage Edition (Blue w/ white stripe) that was part of the display at MECCA? Thanks to some very helpful people I hear it's going to the musuem. Breaks my heart since I wanted that one!
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So I'm confused about the total number of coupes built. Someone posted the number 1152. Which I ass-u-me to mean that 1152 sequentially numbered VIN coupes would be built.
However, someone else also posted saying they had bought a pre-sequential number VIN coupe. So again, do we have a number for the total number of coupes built?
As as side note, when I went to a dealership several weeks ago and viewed a non-sequential numbered coupe (with a hand written note displayed on top of it saying it was a 2010) I told the salesman it couldn't be a 2010 because they hadn't started building them yet. He looked at a book, admitted it wasn't 2010 and said the car was not intended for public sale. Since then others have posted saying pre-sequential VIN coupes can be sold to the public.
What I wrote originally: For What It's Worth, given that the plant is currently shut down, and it's highly unlikely that it will ever produce another car, sales of solstices and skys were up for the second straight month:
Edit July 4: According to Flash's Owner, and GMlinedog, the plant will reopen on July 13, in order to build out 2009's ordered cars. Expect it to be another 300 coupes or so.
For the month of June:
Solstice Sales = 939
Sol production = 140
Sky Sales = 435
Sky Production = 0
According to a couple of different reports here on the Solsticeforum, Opel GT and Saturn Sky production has been completed, and Pontiac Solstice production is finished as of June 12.
Here are the total production numbers I have calculated since day 1 of production back in 2005:
Opel GT: 7,517
Saturn Sky: 34,227
Pontiac Solstice: 64,543
GM also published that the following 2010 models have been produced during CY2009 (these are not included in the above numbers):
Opel GT: 2
Saturn Sky: 8
Pontiac Solstice: 20
I will update these numbers next month if any of them change.
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to mean that 1152 sequentially numbered VIN coupes would be built. 
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