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Old 07-04-2009, 02:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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OEM Wheel stud availability

Somehow, despite the lugnuts being torque'd to spec, I managed to shear off two wheel studs during some spirited take-offs. Now, this normally wouldn't be a problem. Pop the busted studs out (done), pop a good one out (done, after removal of hub assembly) to ensure new ones can be put in, go pick up replacements (this appears to be the hard part), put new units in.
Autozone, Pep Boys, Kragen/Shucks, Napa all do not carry a stud that will fit our vehicle apparently. Has anyone gotten OEM replacement studs anywhere but the dealer? I realize at this point (the 4th of July) every place is closed, but I never like being locked into going to a single place to get the parts I need. I realize I could order them online, but I won't have them for the weekend, obviously. I believe the part number is 9596978, someone correct me if I am wrong.
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Old 07-04-2009, 03:51 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok do you know if the hubs are shared with any other car? They may not stock them for the sol, but might for its shared rides..

Just a thought.. My PT shares with the SRT4(neon) so when I can't find brake parts or wheels studs the neon search always brings up hits at kragen.

Or I've had luck with some tire shops locally they might have some in stock too if not for the sol the kin of the sol..

I hope you find them, I had a bunch messed up after forgetting to torque a wheel after putting street tires back on at the track a couple years ago.. No, I didn't even get out of the parking lot before I figured it out and shut it down, but damage was done.
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I actually removed the wheel stud, and brought it in. I sheared two on a single hub, pulled those both out, and third as an example.
Pep boys took about an hour, and came up empty, autozone took about half an hour, came up close, the splined area was the correct pitch, but not the correct width, so it would not engage.
The GM part number corresponds to a solstice/sky part only.
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At the risk of sounding like a "know it all", but on this issue I actually DO know. The part is unique. There are no direct substitutes. NONE. I had to replace one.

First, if you broke lug studs then they were a) too loose, or b) too tight. PERIOD. GET A NEW TORQUE WRENCH.

Second, if you want "better" studs, buy four sets of ARP studs and 7/16" X 20 pitch open lug nuts with a 19MM outside hex. If you work on your car and KNOW how to R&R the studs, it is actually pretty easy. For the rear you will need some serious air and impact gun to get the half shaft nut off and back on.

Third, if you need to verify the part number (any Pontiac dealer can help with that) I have some in bags and can check for you. If you NEED some studs and lug nuts ASAP, I have five of each. PayPal will work.
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Old 07-04-2009, 04:31 PM   #5 (permalink)
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At the risk of sounding like a "know it all", but on this issue I actually DO know. The part is unique. There are no direct substitutes. NONE. I had to replace one.

First, if you broke lug studs then they were a) too loose, or b) too tight. PERIOD. GET A NEW TORQUE WRENCH.

Second, if you want "better" studs, buy four sets of ARP studs and 7/16" X 20 pitch open lug nuts with a 19MM outside hex. If you work on your car and KNOW how to R&R the studs, it is actually pretty easy. For the rear you will need some serious air and impact gun to get the half shaft nut off and back on.

Third, if you need to verify the part number (any Pontiac dealer can help with that) I have some in bags and can check for you. If you NEED some studs and lug nuts ASAP, I have five of each. PayPal will work.

I tried to help a brother out, but this is good to know..
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Old 07-04-2009, 07:56 PM   #6 (permalink)
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If someone wants to know how to replce the studs, let me know.
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Second, if you want "better" studs, buy four sets of ARP studs and 7/16" X 20 pitch open lug nuts with a 19MM outside hex. If you work on your car and KNOW how to R&R the studs, it is actually pretty easy. For the rear you will need some serious air and impact gun to get the half shaft nut off and back on.
The Service Manual procedure for the rear wheel studs shows it being performed with the hub on the car. You didn't find enough room in the real world to do it without R&R of the hub?

The manual also advises to use a new wheel drive shaft spindle nut.
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I believe the part number is 9596978, someone correct me if I am wrong.
That is not a very commonly stocked part. For exampple only one dealership in New England shows it the most commonly used locator system.

(Site member Bobby D in Somersworth NH has 10. But then again he has a Solstice that runs in SCCA events and is more in tuned to the possible need.)
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Old 07-04-2009, 09:13 PM   #9 (permalink)
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At the risk of sounding like a "know it all", but on this issue I actually DO know. The part is unique. There are no direct substitutes. NONE. I had to replace one.

First, if you broke lug studs then they were a) too loose, or b) too tight. PERIOD. GET A NEW TORQUE WRENCH.

Second, if you want "better" studs, buy four sets of ARP studs and 7/16" X 20 pitch open lug nuts with a 19MM outside hex. If you work on your car and KNOW how to R&R the studs, it is actually pretty easy. For the rear you will need some serious air and impact gun to get the half shaft nut off and back on.

Third, if you need to verify the part number (any Pontiac dealer can help with that) I have some in bags and can check for you. If you NEED some studs and lug nuts ASAP, I have five of each. PayPal will work.
Luckily enough, this is just the weekend cruiser. I've got a GTO to run around in, and a Typhoon that runs, but has some rust, and a gauge issue. I figure I'll pick some up at a dealer once the weekend is over.

The wierd thing is though, it only happened on one wheel, and all the other lugnuts were loose on the same wheel. Every other wheel all the way around- still perfect and to spec. I'm beginning to think that someone did some sabotage or something.
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That is not a very commonly stocked part. For exampple only one dealership in New England shows it the most commonly used locator system.

(Site member Bobby D in Somersworth NH has 10. But then again he has a Solstice that runs in SCCA events and is more in tuned to the possible need.)
Well maybe I won't be able to pick a couple up from the dealer same day, but at least they'll get on order, hopefully at a better price than GM parts direct- the whole $4 for the stud, but $15 shipping kinda bothers me. Even if the dealer has em at $6-7 a stud, I'll go there.
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If you can't get them quickly. PM me as I have some extras. When I change my wheels at a Solo event today I'll look at the rear, but IIRC, the hubs all stay in place and the bearing assembly must come off. I'll post this afternoon.

p.s., I blew the rear axle nuts on with an air gun. Monday I will buy a couple new ones.
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Actually I believe there is an issue with the wheels studs. I've broke two myself and I know they were torqued correctly.

Snapon is correct, from what I found the wheel studs are unique to the Kappa. However both of the wheel studs I did, I didn't have to remove anything but the wheel.

If I keep having problems I may look into the ARP ones.
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Quick question are you guys when doing your hand torque are you doing a star pattern so the load gets spread out?

Just checking simple stuff.
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Actually I believe there is an issue with the wheels studs. I've broke two myself and I know they were torqued correctly.

Snapon is correct, from what I found the wheel studs are unique to the Kappa. However both of the wheel studs I did, I didn't have to remove anything but the wheel.

If I keep having problems I may look into the ARP ones.
I'll look again. Could see anything yesterday with the discs on, but I was not under the car. I will probably have to do the fronts as well, so I will certainly have to look up front for sure. The ARPs are VERY long (3" or so).
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I'll look again. Could see anything yesterday with the discs on, but I was not under the car. I will probably have to do the fronts as well, so I will certainly have to look up front for sure. The ARPs are VERY long (3" or so).
Oh yeah, thats right. I did have to remove the caliper and disc too. Forgot about that. I only did the backs, there was a dust shield I had to bend a little bit to get the stud in but it wasn't a big deal.

3" studs? Hmm I could run some spacers with studs that long.
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