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Old 08-04-2008, 02:28 PM
   BTFR intake manifold/intercooler
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ALright, based on the success of other engines' Ive done this to, having a WIC brick inside the manifold is my next step.
I will be purchasing stock intake manifolds, cutting them up, porting them up and installing a nice 1000hp rated garret WIC brick in the plenum.

You then have 4 ways to go with this:

1) remove front mount and install another small heatexchanger + waterpump. The res. tank can then be filled with icewater at the track.
2) keep your frontmount, use this as well with the above equipment

3)keep your frontmount,install Cro2 system to discharge thru the water section of the intercooler core. (no water aboard at all) THis knocks the temp of the entire manifold FAR below Zero.

4) all drag- co2 only, no frontmount,no liquid system aboard.

In any option, the airflow advantage here is at high flows the core acts like a MAF screen to straighten and distribute airflow, ensuring each Cyl gets a fair meal.
The rediculously cold chargetemps are a bonus on the deal.

It's going to be a bolt on deal.
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Old 08-04-2008, 04:37 PM
  
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Im having trouble pictuing this in the intake manifold especially ours, show some pics of what you've done in other setups.
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Old 08-04-2008, 07:01 PM
  
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This has 2 500hp garret WIC's in the upper, then a 1" thick piece of phenolic, then a billet lower (made the runners 1/2 @ a time & welded them together) It was some undertaking.
ours will be more simple, one 1000hp WIC core in the plenum with an endtank and perhaps a Ls2 TB. as an option. depends on whether we can get at the correct tables to define the flow per angle.


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Old 08-13-2008, 07:15 PM
  
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Wouldn't it be easier to just use a LSJ intake manifold instead? Swap that on there and then add in a water pump.
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Old 08-13-2008, 07:38 PM
  
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The core in that manifold is too wimpy for serious HP.
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Old 08-14-2008, 12:31 PM
  
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What kind of serious hp are you looking for out of the LNF?

Those cores and the whole intercooling system in the LSJs are designed and manufactured by Laminova, a division of Opcon which owns Lysholm and they develop some of the best superchargers in the world.

There is a Saturn ION RL that has well over 450whp that is doing perfectly fine on the stock intercooler system.

Do you have pictures of the core(s) in your system? The Laminova cores are pretty advanced...

Laminova Production AB If you click on "intercoolers" on the bottom right, there is a pdf to open on the new page. With the 4 cores in the LSJ manifold, you could convert the system to a dual pass also so the coolant isn't staying in the intake manifold too long.
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Oh Ive been all up side of down and eveywhere in between with them. Opcon is real hard to get ahold of, but Yes I have several of their cores (sticks) for prototyping.

They require alot more expensive machining. Each of the largest stick I have is only good for 7-9lbs/min. That means I would need at least six in there. They have great fin aspect ratio so they are very efficient at heat transfer, but only if you have the close fitting housing to direct the air over.

Even the ZR-1 team deemed the cores too small for their "modest" 625hp car.

I would be interested to see the pressure drop across that Redline's core.

You will see 850+whp LNF's rolling out of my shop... Bet money on it. we'll find away around the hardcode limit of 255kpa.
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Old 08-15-2008, 12:58 AM
  
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Oh Ive been all up side of down and eveywhere in between with them. Opcon is real hard to get ahold of, but Yes I have several of their cores (sticks) for prototyping.

They require alot more expensive machining. Each of the largest stick I have is only good for 7-9lbs/min. That means I would need at least six in there. They have great fin aspect ratio so they are very efficient at heat transfer, but only if you have the close fitting housing to direct the air over.

Even the ZR-1 team deemed the cores too small for their "modest" 625hp car.

I would be interested to see the pressure drop across that Redline's core.

You will see 850+whp LNF's rolling out of my shop... Bet money on it. we'll find away around the hardcode limit of 255kpa.


i am pretty new to this forum but i love your thinking (no homo) big power not just 400hp numbers. lookin forward to seeing more of your work. do you have a website? if so please pm me or post as i want to see what performance parts you offer right now
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Old 08-15-2008, 06:57 AM
  
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BTF Racing, Inc. - Bald Turbo Freak

There is but a small fraction of the cars I have constructed there. I have been really bad at updating the site, mostly because I dunno what I doing most of the time. lol. My buddy that used to take care of it all moved to vegas.

I have been slowly pullin' out of the custom's biz and get back to manufacturing where I started from. I moved my other 2 shops to my new house and I building an addition out back for the new manufacturing/product development facility.
This weekend I'm having a friend come out and refresh that site to refelct the All kappa/LNF attitude our company has taken. He's going to put in some new sections as well as a new store for factory direct buys.
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Old 08-15-2008, 07:22 PM
  
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nice work!!! (cars in the webpage) too bad your not closer to jersey id be down for helping you test out new stuff and having you work on my car. (as long as i work on the car too lol) ill keep an eye on your section.
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Old 09-04-2008, 10:27 AM
  
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Ordered up the intake manifold.. Should be here next friday.
CYl heads wont be availible for a few months yet...

So there will be ported intake manifolds and
Intake/intercooler combo's availible for purchase in around a month.
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Old 09-11-2008, 04:25 PM
  
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Wow the intake manifold showed up early and on top of that it includes an new TB and every sensor! wow.
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Old 09-22-2008, 07:55 PM
  
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start porting lol
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:08 AM
  
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I'm ON it bro!

Wait till you see the intake. It's strange, there really is no discernable runner. More like just an inlet mouth to the head port.

I would estimate total runner length with head port to be only 4-5 inches.

Most of the "runner" you see in the top of the intake has no floor in it.
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Old 10-16-2008, 08:56 PM
  
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More examples, this one built from a Skunk2 manifold

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Old 10-19-2008, 07:53 PM
  
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Looks SERIOUS bro!


good luck w/ the project!
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