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Originally Posted by Moose GXP
I don't think the Volt acts as a parallel hybrid, it's a series hybrid. In other words, I don't think it will run on the ICE alone. The ICE turns the generator that charges the batteries.
I don't think the batteries are non-op during that process but I don't think they'll get a full charge either.
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From GM-Volt, some great info here: After the Volt unveiling the Toronto Star had a fruitful Q& A with GM vice-chairman Bob Lutz.
Lutz told reporters that because things have gone so well, the Volt is actually ahead of schedule. He indicated that he was now 99.9% sure the Volt will be a success, and that as a result it will have a transformational effect on the public’s perception of GM’s technological and environmental prowess.
He also discussed issues being worked out for apartment dwellers, and noted one idea would be to persuade garage owners to set aside an area for car charging and discussed the way public chargers would have to be designed so thieves couldn’t steal power. The charger would have a sliding door that locks the cord in place, opening only when a credit card was swiped.
He also publicly confirmed that GM will unveil the Volt’s photovoltaic roof option at the Detroit Auto Show in January. The roof, he said, will be able to charge the battery from 1/4 to 1/3 over 3 hot blazing days of sun, such as in an airport parking lot, and could function keep the A/C on when parked on hot summer days, avoiding battery draw to cool up the car when the driver gets in.
Lutz also denied present plans to put E-Flex into other vehicles yet, although he remains excited at the prospects for doing so.
Lutz also describes the Volt’s cold-weather algorithm. If the driver turns on the car when its too cold for the battery to properly function, the ICE will go on automatically to condition the battery before shutting off and going to electric drive.
Source (Toronto Star )
Sounds awesome.
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I have heard that a possible problem is battery fires, remember cell phone and laptop fires using the same type of batterys.
Dont charge this car in your garage.
I have heard that a possible problem is battery fires, remember cell phone and laptop fires using the same type of batterys.
Dont charge this car in your garage.
LIons can catch fire if they overheat, and this is quite a bit of excess heat we're talking about. A car, fortunately, is a lot more complex and larger than your average cell phone or laptop. Just adding a few thermal diodes around the battery pack and linking them to an emergency disconnect would do the job. GM could really shine with some systems integration here.
Also, as I mentioned a while back, the LIons that caught fire in consumer electronics were knock-offs that were rebadged by some shady companies and sold as brand-name units. One would imagine that an OEM like GM would have sufficient audits and controls over their supply chain to prevent fakes or bad parts from entering.
Where do you think GM is going to purchase batterys from?? The fire danger is very real.
charge range 40 miles.
cost for now 40K
I think I will stick with NG for a fuel for the future.
Where do you think GM is going to purchase batterys from?? The fire danger is very real.
charge range 40 miles.
cost for now 40K
I think I will stick with LP for a fuel for the future.
Are you serious, you better hurry and notify GM that their batteries might catch on fire!
It's time to get your self edumacated, here's the American company that is manufacturing the Volt's Nanophosphate pack:
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What happend to the Volt concept car? It was way better looking than this ricer
The concept was ridiculous when it came to cost, drag, engineering, comfort, etc...
The concept was just a concept, not a proposed production vehicle. The whole purpose of the Volt concept car was to present a pretty face for the possible flex drive powertrain GM was proposing.
If you want a cartoon car with glass doors, chopped top, 22inch wheels, and crappy aerodynamics then go build a hot rod.
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Thank you!!! At least someone has a clue what a concept car actually is.
We do have a clue what concept cars are. However, if the production car doesn't sell well except at deep discounts... I hope the company can build other things. Again, this comes back to GM building cars people want to buy. The Volt provides a new power train that, both itself and in its derivatives, will eventually be very popular. It does not, however, provide an overall vehicle to get excited about. This is especially so at the rumored price points, even with Federal tax credits.
It does not, however, provide an overall vehicle to get excited about. This is especially so at the rumored price points, even with Federal tax credits.
Pricing comparable to a midsize sedan, not competitve. Pricing compared to a four seat electric car, there is absolutely no competition.
The Volt is not a car for someone that is looking for a midsize sedan that gets great mileage, the volt is for those that want a real-world electric car.
Show me any other $40,000 electric drive four seater with: a 40 mile range, 100 MPH top speed, heated seats, HVAC, GPS, full stereo, attractive styling both inside and out, on board converter, ICE, 5-year warranty, Airbags front/side, 5 Star US Crash Test Certification, etc...
Snugglebear are you starting to get the picture here?
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Pricing comparable to a midsize sedan, not competitve. Pricing compared to a four seat electric car, there is absolutely no competition.
The Volt is not a car for someone that is looking for a midsize sedan that gets great mileage, the volt is for those that want a real-world electric car.
Show me any other $40,000 electric drive four seater with: a 40 mile range, 100 MPH top speed, heated seats, HVAC, GPS, full stereo, attractive styling both inside and out, on board converter, ICE, 5-year warranty, Airbags front/side, 5 Star US Crash Test Certification, etc...
Snugglebear are you starting to get the picture here?
That's myopia, plain and simple. Back when cars were first invented the electrics had a lead, only to be overtaken and pulverized by internal combustion as it matured. At that time people's legs were competing with bicycles, trains, an occasional subway, boats, horses, electric cars, and internal combustion cars. Sure, the players have changed since then but the concept is still the same. People only buy what they can afford (OK, maybe not a lot of dumb ones the past few years) and it has to do the job they ask of it. Should an ICE car do the job at far less expense, they are not going to buy the electric. Is this that confusing?
Should an ICE car do the job at far less expense, they are not going to buy the electric. Is this that confusing?
"The job", as in driving to work everyday with out a drop of gasoline? –NO, an ICE car can not do that job. I'll repeat myself: The Volt is not a car for someone that is looking for a midsize sedan that gets great mileage; the volt is for those that want a real-world electric car.
I'm not going to let the small community here pass off the Volt as more crap from GM, I'm sick of the pessimism and the inability of folks to understand something good as it stands right in front them! The phrase, "GM doesn't build cars that people want." is such Bull$hit nowadays. The following would prove otherwise: Malibu, CTS, CTS-V, Corvette, VOLT, Cruz, Arcadia, Enclave, etc…
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