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Old 12-20-2005, 06:54 AM
   5-Speed, how does it compare to the Colorado?
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I was just curious, has anyone here driven a Colorado? I haven't driven a longitudinally mounted RWD car with a stick in a long time. I think the only other one I've driven was a Volvo. One of the things that I noticed though, is that you get engine feedback through the gear shifter. I don't know why, but I think that's the coolest friggin thing. I haven't bothered to look yet, but... the gear shift is directly connected to the transmission with a lever, as apposed to using cables and brackets like it is on my 87 Fiero... right?

Quick question about the transmission... this is the same transmission as is on the Colorado, correct? I noticed the transmission in the Solstice is a bit notchy and kind of harsh... but I'm totally not complaining... for what I paid for this car, I'd take a 3-Speed manual from a 60s Ford Mustang and I'd STILL be happy. This car is an amazing deal. I was just curious if those characteristics had more to do with the ruggedness of the transmission since it was originally meant for the Colorado??


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Old 12-20-2005, 09:57 AM
  
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Hey guys,

I was just curious, has anyone here driven a Colorado? I haven't driven a longitudinally mounted RWD car with a stick in a long time. I think the only other one I've driven was a Volvo. One of the things that I noticed though, is that you get engine feedback through the gear shifter. I don't know why, but I think that's the coolest friggin thing. I haven't bothered to look yet, but... the gear shift is directly connected to the transmission with a lever, as apposed to using cables and brackets like it is on my 87 Fiero... right?


Yes. It's directly connected like 99.9% of front engine/rear drive vehicles.

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Quick question about the transmission... this is the same transmission as is on the Colorado, correct? I noticed the transmission in the Solstice is a bit notchy and kind of harsh... but I'm totally not complaining... for what I paid for this car, I'd take a 3-Speed manual from a 60s Ford Mustang and I'd STILL be happy. This car is an amazing deal. I was just curious if those characteristics had more to do with the ruggedness of the transmission since it was originally meant for the Colorado??
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It's the same transmission designe, but different gearing and probably different specs for power. A good example is the old T-5 that came in a crapload of cars. The mustang T-5s were all strong and well geared compared to other T-5s that had poor gearing, weak internals, or quirky "tilted" main cases. I would say the case/bellhousing is pretty much bulletproof since that stuff is probably exactly the same as the Colorado, but gauging the quality of the internals will either need aisin to release the specs or it will take time to turn up the stats of everybody driving these. I wouldn't worry about it too much, as Mallet doesn't have any problems putting it behind corvette motors - and if GM shared specs with anybody, it would be him.
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Old 12-20-2005, 10:56 AM
  
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Colorado/Canyon 5 speed Aisin Trans:
First: 3.75
Second: 2.26
Third: 1.37
Fourth: 1
Fifth: 0.73

Solstice 5-Speed Aisin Trans:
First: 3.75
Second: 2.26
Third: 1.37
Fourth: 1
Fifth: 0.73

FYI. Looks like same gearset. 3:91 RER for Solstice, the Colorado varies up to about 3:73 RER.
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Old 12-20-2005, 12:19 PM
  
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Well that's very interesting.

I could have sworn that I had already compared the gearsets earlier and noted differences....

I stand corrected.

Can I ask what the source is for the Solstice gear ratio info? Not that I doubt it, but I've been doing a LOT of transmission reasearch recently for the 3800 swap, and now I'm thinking I may have my stock trans info wrong somehow...
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http://media.gm.com/us/powertrain/en...g%20trans.html

They have the photos and full spec info on the tranmission and engines for all 2006 cars.
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Thanks for the link.

I somehow COMPLETELY screwed up my data in the spreadsheet. Only 1 matching number in the entire thing ($1,000,000 e-semolians if you can guess which one). I even got dimension info somewhere that makes no sense. Back to the drawing board!
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No prob, that's what we're here for.

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I have a colorado auto.. But the 5 speed is a bit notchy in the truck version too. There is a contact that I have looking into the durability of the 3.5 and the trans as well. He said the engine and trans are super durable. He just recommends changing out the clutch for high performance apps. There pushing the limits on the trans to see how far he can go. I think he's also developing rods for the I5, but they are forged in stock form already I think. Anyway I have faith in the 5 speed.. (that's my point haha)

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Who is "He", and why is he developing rods for the I5? Are we looking at installing I5s with turbos in Sols? Or are we talking about the 300 horsepower turbo I5 for the H3????
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Thanks for the link.

I somehow COMPLETELY screwed up my data in the spreadsheet. Only 1 matching number in the entire thing ($1,000,000 e-semolians if you can guess which one). I even got dimension info somewhere that makes no sense. Back to the drawing board!
5, the number of gears. I do accept e-semolians and will even make change.
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Well,, His name is Juan, but he isn't doing anything for any up coming GM platform.. I DON'T WANT TO GIVE THAT IMPRESSION. He is developing racing parts for the I5 for aftermarket. But the post was to build faith on the 5 speed. So far as people have pushed it, it's been strong (of course besides the stock clutch when you make power). There is a colorado that is running 12.62 at 113 or something.. He does 4800rpm launches with nitrious and the trans has been great.. (5 speed)

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