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Old 03-01-2006, 08:39 AM
  
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Hey Fast97, you're probably right? But he's not here to talk about his mischievous behavior. He probably was speeding on a track or a private road. I'm sure he knows the consequences before hand...... On the "Dyno" my car did 135 mph. Any questions about that, PM The Stig, his did the same.
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Actually as I have stated.... I am 21 years old....

I don't care what he thinks are the consequences... if he is doing this he is unexperianced with high speed motoring, aerodynamics, and the effects of hazards on the road...

He even stated that he went airborn! Could you imagine if there would have been another bump after that... you would have a very totaled car and a very seriously injured driver....

He did not state he was at a track, and I doubt that because a track will not have bumps in it...

When I read this all I see is increasing insurance costs, and more automotive fatalities....

You don't have to be old to have a decent head on your shoulders...

Take it to the track.....

If you guys want to know what is happening... its simple... the Rev Limiter is exactly that... it cuts off fuel at a certain RPM.... upshifting will slow the increase of speed, but will not slow you down. The reason you hit the RL is because you are maxing out 4th gear... i suggest shifting to 5th and continue to excelerate... remember just because it takes you longer to get to speed does not mean you can't get there... thats the whole hp vs. tq. thing.... max speed or the time it takes to get there...

Also... you may want to consider the top down vs. top up issue... dop down will create more wind resistance and increase your RPMs, thus hitting the RL prematurly... put the top up!

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Tweety... so why prosicute if it was fate and not the drivers fault? Hope noone you know ever gets killed at that speed (I really mean that... don't take this as a sarcastic remark).... I do understand it. I have done it. But I do believe that just because it is done does not make it right....

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I doubt that because a track will not have bumps in it...

We have 2 tracks here in Texas that have humps in them enough to lift the front of any car and pull the front end up on our bikes. These are the grass roots privateer level tracks and not the pro series.
Possible to lift? Yeah. Was he on a track? Doubtful.
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Advantages of driving in Germany:
1) Overall, the cars are in much better condition because of tough inspections
2) Licenses are much harder to get, with better driving training
3) The autobahn speed limit is "whatever's safe" up to 155 mph


Disadvantages of driving in Germany:
1) When you fly off the road at 120+ mph, you find out why Oak was used as armor on ships.
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I don,t think it is the limiter, like I said, it is set at 140.

The guy who told you that was wrong. From what I know, there appears to be two types of devices to keep you from killing yourself. One is a limiter (fuel cut-off) on the tachometer. That one keeps you under a certain RPM. The other is the governor switch, which keeps you from exceeding a certain MPH. I think it disengages the engine, but I'm not certain on that. I know the Limiter exists on the Solstice, and the Governor is standard on every car GM makes, and I have never seen it go higher than 110 MPH.

Yes the "Spedometer" says 140MPH, but that is just there to make you feel good. It means that your car could handle 140MPH if we were to let you, but we're not. It's also shows that high if you choose to race you car and want to disable the governor switch.

Most governer switches I know of kick in around 110MPH.
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Old 03-01-2006, 02:14 PM
  
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...I know the Limiter exists on the Solstice, and the Governor is standard on every car GM makes, and I have never seen it go higher than 110 MPH.

Yes the "Spedometer" says 140MPH, but that is just there to make you feel good. It means that your car could handle 140MPH if we were to let you, but we're not. It's also shows that high if you choose to race you car and want to disable the governor switch.

Most governer switches I know of kick in around 110MPH.
Ever driven a Corvette? Just wondering. I know the speed limitations (which reside in the engine control module, it's not a 'switch' per se) are well above 145 MPH, because that is what you can reach at some of the larger tracks, routinely, in a stock Corvette with no powertrain modifications.

I'm quite certain the actual speed limiter is closer to 130 MPH or possibly higher, but with stock power the car is only capable of 120-125. The other clue something is weird is the "cutout" of the speedometer. If that were my car, I'd go have it checked.
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Ever driven a Corvette?

No, like a said, I've only ever seen governors as high as 110MPH form experience, which i admit is limited. Doen't meant they don't exist. But I am saying that the Spedometer only goes to 140MPH on the Solstice, and I think that most cars governors kick in before you bury the needle. That's all I was saying.

if the spedometer says 140MPH the governor probably kicks in before that.
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No, like a said, I've only ever seen governors as high as 110MPH form experience, which i admit is limited. Doen't meant they don't exist. But I am saying that the Spedometer only goes to 140MPH on the Solstice, and I think that most cars governors kick in before you bury the needle. That's all I was saying.

if the spedometer says 140MPH the governor probably kicks in before that.
Have an e-mail question to a contact of mine. Should have an answer in a few days. Initial response seemed quite high (same as GXP?!?!? even though you'll never get there, but GXP is at least 230 kph (140+MPH)), so I asked for confirmation that this was correct. Stay tuned.
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Nah, 'sall good, I'm surprised we haven't figured out what the speed limitations actually are...
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Old 03-01-2006, 03:18 PM
  
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I know the Limiter exists on the Solstice, and the Governor is standard on every car GM makes, and I have never seen it go higher than 110 MPH.

On my Grand Prix GTP it is limited to 126, the Head up says 126mph, and the needle is burried in the dash well past the 110 mark.
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Nah, 'sall good, I'm surprised we haven't figured out what the speed limitations actually are...

I'm also suprised it is not known yet. In my experience GM seems to equip more of their vehicles with low absolute speed limiters than any other OEM I'm familiar with, but I doubt that nearly all are at 110mph. I usually see the low limits on models forced that way due to being equipped with bottom of the barrel all seasons that are only rated for a certain speeds. Other than tire or tip over concerns (suv's) I would not be suprised if all others are not limited at all.
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I thought a couple of members had their cars up to 120 or 125.
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