be extra careful when it rains. - Page 2 - Pontiac Solstice Forum
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #16 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 05:51 AM
Member
 
Treeman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Scaggsville, MD
Posts: 420
Re: be extra careful when it rains.

Glad it was not worse. Sure sounds scary to me.

Stock tires on every car I've bought in the last 20 years have been crap in the rain regardless of who made the car or the tire. The GXP is great in the rain with decent.

Sent from my SCH-I535 using AutoGuide App

2009 Aggressive GXP
DDM Race Backbone, ProBeam, Coil Cover, Alignment, and Oil Catch Can
Solo Mach Shorty Exhaust
GMPP Tune
LatinVenom Front Brace
Werks Adjustable Sway Bars
Enkei Ammodo Wheels
Michelin Pilot Super Sport Summers/Pirelli 240 Sottozero Winters
Hawk HPS Brake Pads
Sound Deadener Showdown
Beach Party Central Custom Fusebox Cover
JPM Arm Rests
Lead Foot!
Treeman is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #17 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 06:17 AM
Member
 
idkfa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 2,680
Sucks about your accident OP. Agreed with everyone else that it's night and day with a set of decent tires. Never had an issue from the moment I took the stockers off.
idkfa is offline  
post #18 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 08:21 AM
Member
 
GS Stage 1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 1,639
My humble advice to anyone else, with stock F1s on a GXP/Redline:
(I have been daily driving mine since 2008)

Ditch the F1s asap. I pulled them off my wife's car after the first year and replaced with Eagle GT Asymmetric. She drives in blood alley between Ft. Collins and Denver on a regular basis. (Looking back, I wish I would have pulled them in the first month) The F1s are an ok dry/warm weather tire. But quite frankly, they are not even great in those conditions. For a supposed "High Performance Summer Tire", my stupid old school BF TAs stuck better. And the rain groves on the F1s are very minimal. Fine for light rain, but as soon as you hit anything moderate to heavy, they just can not channel enough to do much good.

The GTs are far superior rain tires. And, they are stickier in dry/warm conditions than the stock F1s; which is amazing because you actually have less foot print because of the wider rain groves. But the rubber is gooier. The tread is waaay deeper, so very good water channeling abilities.

I burnt though the stock F1s on my car in about 30,000 miles of road time (summer only, I run snows in the winter). And after about 15,000-20,000 miles of road time; they became very unreliable in rain conditions. Hydroplane City. But I was aware of it, and took precautions. Besides, I am a cheap bastard, and like to get my money's worth. Now I am burning through my wife's left over F1s that I pulled off her car. I figure I have to more seasons, before they are down to cheater slicks as well. After that, I will finally get something decent for my car.

Believe me when I say, tires make all the difference in the world on these cars. My wife's Sky is completely stock, not even a tune. If I am following her through the twisties, she can walk on me like I am sitting still. My 80 lbs of torque advantage doesn't mean jack crap when she can stick like glue.

And if we both leave from Loveland to drive home to Ft. Collins in the rain at the same time, I get home 30 minutes later.

Sent from my DALEK MOBILE DEVICE using Exterminate.Com Free App
GS Stage 1 is offline  
post #19 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 09:02 AM
Member
 
KappaKadet's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Third Rock
Posts: 1,077
Where the rubber meets the road . . .

Quote:
Originally Posted by GS Stage 1 View Post
Believe me when I say,
tires make all the difference in the world on these cars.

The pre-production models and pre-release Auto Show vehicles all had the high performance Goodyear F1 GS D3 tires installed. When they started to come off the assembly line GM cheapened out and put RSAs on them and later put the slightly better F1 GS2s on the turbo kappas.
KappaKadet is offline  
post #20 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 09:40 AM
Member
 
Sly Bob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Welland, ON, Canada
Posts: 2,767
Quote:
Originally Posted by KappaKadet View Post

The pre-production models and pre-release Auto Show vehicles all had the high performance Goodyear F1 GS D3 tires installed. When they started to come off the assembly line GM cheapened out and put RSAs on them and later put the slightly better F1 GS2s on the turbo kappas.
"Slightly" being the operative word. Anyone here knows the stock tires aren't the best (trying to be nice here) and the tread on those tires must have been getting pretty thin with that mileage if they were originals. The tires should have been replaced with something better a long time ago.

Glad you are okay.

WooHoo!!! Ordered a loaded Deep GXP on March 19th, 2008. Order number 0814D93708
Event code 3400 on April 12, 2008
Born April 30, 2008
Delivered to dealer May 23th, 2008
Delivered on May 27, 2008

Mods: lose the chicklets, VentureShield, Dual horns, AfterShock spoiler, Weathershield cover, Lil Chromies, Red calipers with black Solstice stickers, Opel GT antenna and
Solo GXP-RCD exhaust with Solo hi-flow cat!

Last edited by Sly Bob; 02-26-2013 at 09:45 AM.
Sly Bob is offline  
post #21 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 09:43 AM
Moderator
 
rob the elder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Parker Colorado, USA, directly above the center of the earth
Posts: 11,532
Good input.

I have had good experience with mine but I dont drive in the rain and only have 25k miles on the cars. And I dont want to hook up too much because I dont want to change out the rear axels.


Rob the Elder

Punisher's Daddy
Green Dragon's chief mechanic
Carol's husband for 47 years

Secretary Rocky Mountain Solstice and Sky Club
Punisher's story
http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f62/punisher-65168/
Punisher thread index
http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f...ml#post1765649

rob the elder is online now  
post #22 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 10:10 AM
Member
 
Racer_X's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Elk Grove, Ca
Posts: 628
I hate you ROB! Now I wanna keep this damn car.

2008 Porsche Carrera GTS

WITH EVERY POSSIBLE MODIFICATION
Racer_X is offline  
post #23 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 10:38 AM
Member
 
chickenwire's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Michigan
Posts: 3,555
Rob kinda has that impact on some people.

2007 2.4L N/A. Stock + WindRestrictor V2 + Kappa Attic + Kapparoo + Lil' Chromies + Kappa Luggage.
chickenwire is offline  
post #24 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 12:18 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Ontario Canada
Posts: 140
Scary, this tire thing. I'm on my winter set now (Blizzaks), great for this time of year, but I intend to change my RSA's come spring for Bridgestone 760 Sports. Any comments, anyone?
Geologger is offline  
post #25 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 12:23 PM
Member
 
JesseB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: South East Ohio
Posts: 795
Rob @ 2:56 ...i really thought it caught on fire for a sec
JesseB is offline  
post #26 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 12:27 PM
Member
 
BellaVerde's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Still BellaVerde, But Now In Archer Lodge, NC
Posts: 2,306
Glad you're OK. Tough choice, whether to stay on the median in the rain or dash through traffic in the rain!

As you can already see, pay salvage for the little thing and part it out. Loads of cash. Lot of trouble, but loads of cash.

Envious, NEW Lightsidetop, N/A, VIN # 1G2MB35B97Y114344
Oh yeah, Steel/Sand interior. Added K&N filter. Vent tube r/r @ 2850 mi. WindRestrictor added 12/12/06. Added high-tone horn. Painted engine cover. ECM retune 6/15/10. Added Vandesign B/U lite covers 12/07. Re-replaced seal due to recall 27570 mi. DDMProBeam added 7/2/08. Envious Emblem overlays. Kappasphere rear deck rack. DDM tunnel plate added 4/22/09. Solo Exhaust system, lit sills and HID conversion 5/1/10.
BellaVerde is offline  
post #27 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 01:16 PM
Member
 
buffyfan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 259
Yeah the stock tires on the gxp lift easily with hardly any throttle in the rain pulling out from a stop and turning. Sometimes it's fun to turn off traction control and have some fun, but for interstate driving it's definitely white knuckle on the stock tires. Need to get some new ones for mine eventually but luckily I don't do much interstate driving and can keep it on slow speed roads during bad weather. Hate to see one wrecked like that (especially black like mine) but glad you were badly hurt.
buffyfan is offline  
post #28 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 02:22 PM
Moderator
 
rob the elder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Parker Colorado, USA, directly above the center of the earth
Posts: 11,532
Quote:
Originally Posted by Racer_X View Post
I hate you ROB! Now I wanna keep this damn car.
You should!

Send it to Dave. He will turn it into a MONSTER.

Then you will never want to be parted from it. Its like having your own personal thrill ride.

Rob the Elder

Punisher's Daddy
Green Dragon's chief mechanic
Carol's husband for 47 years

Secretary Rocky Mountain Solstice and Sky Club
Punisher's story
http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f62/punisher-65168/
Punisher thread index
http://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f...ml#post1765649

rob the elder is online now  
post #29 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 03:14 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 414
I switched over to the Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110's and they are very good in the rain.

Mine - '08 Brazen GXP. GMPP tune, Magnaflow exhaust, DDM backbone and brace, rear Z0K sway bar, Eiback springs, debadged, 19" MODA1 wheels.

Hers - '08 Bluestone Redline. GMPP tune, Magnaflow exhaust, DDM backbone, debadged (mostly).
brazen17 is offline  
post #30 of 45 (permalink) Old 02-26-2013, 03:35 PM
Member
 
LiquidPT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Bothell, WA from Port Coquitlam, BC
Posts: 2,701
Garage
Send a message via AIM to LiquidPT Send a message via MSN to LiquidPT
Quote:
Originally Posted by brazen17 View Post
I switched over to the Hankook Ventus V12 evo K110's and they are very good in the rain.
This is what I have and, even though they are MUCH better than the F1s, I'll be looking for something else when I need new tires. I don't know if I'm being realistic with the amount of torque I have and the more often wet roads than most, but I still kick the back end out regularly when going round a corner or spin the wheels when setting off from a light.

LiquidPT aka Matt
driving Black Sun
2009 Mysterious GXP Coupe #100
LiquidPT is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Pontiac Solstice Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in









Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome