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Old 12-10-2012, 08:07 AM   #16 (permalink)
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Good points. Everyone ought to have their bumper off at least once.

My license plate bracket was riveted to the front bumper. I had to fill holes when I removed it. I now have adopted a “bracket” that uses plastic pipe, carriage bolts and foam pipe insulation. I can slide the “bracket” which is a friction fit with the holes in the grilles, on or off at will. I carry it in the trunk in case I ever get stopped. But I have not had a front plate for the past 5 years and its not been a problem.

I pulled my grills in 2007 to clean them and to get at the nuts holding the front Pontiac arrowhead onto the bumper. The clips popped off the back side when I used BSFI to remove the grilles. The clips have a ramp that locks them to the bumper with the locking side toward the outside of the grilles. The tabs slide into slots in the bumper that have a small inner edge that will fail but it does not affect the integrity of the mounting. I pull them out frequently now for cleaning. It’s very easy.
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Old 12-10-2012, 09:18 AM   #17 (permalink)
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That's good to know. Those plastic grills are a real challenge to clean. I was thinking about doing metal grills, but the plate holder kind of makes that upgrade pointless to me. Here in VA we need a front plate "unless the vehicle was not manufactured for one." If I pull the plate holder I might be able to convince an officer that there is no place to put one, but like I said, with my luck the policeman would say, "Oh really? I happen to have a Solstice and I know better." I won't even go into the license plate holder debate. A search on the forum will deliver more than anyone would ever want to know. What is BSFI?
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BSFI = Brute Strength and Freaking Ignorance

Pull till something yields.
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Old 12-10-2012, 02:37 PM   #19 (permalink)
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BSFI = Brute Strength and Freaking Ignorance

Pull till something yields.
How I learned not to drive through really deep puddles at speed . . . thereby removing the rear fascia/valence violently. The deep puddle provided the Brute Strength, I provided the Freaking Ignorance.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:55 AM   #20 (permalink)
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How I learned not to drive through really deep puddles at speed . . . thereby removing the rear fascia/valence violently. The deep puddle provided the Brute Force, I provided the Freaking Ignorance. :ROFL:
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Old 12-12-2012, 06:56 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Good points. Everyone ought to have their bumper off at least once.

My license plate bracket was riveted to the front bumper. I had to fill holes when I removed it. I now have adopted a “bracket” that uses plastic pipe, carriage bolts and foam pipe insulation. I can slide the “bracket” which is a friction fit with the holes in the grilles, on or off at will. I carry it in the trunk in case I ever get stopped. But I have not had a front plate for the past 5 years and its not been a problem.

I pulled my grills in 2007 to clean them and to get at the nuts holding the front Pontiac arrowhead onto the bumper. The clips popped off the back side when I used BSFI to remove the grilles. The clips have a ramp that locks them to the bumper with the locking side toward the outside of the grilles. The tabs slide into slots in the bumper that have a small inner edge that will fail but it does not affect the integrity of the mounting. I pull them out frequently now for cleaning. It’s very easy.
I've seen that, but at least on the '09 ours did not come with a front plate bracket and no rivet holes. We bought a stock frame bracket at the dealer and now it's just a brute force push in to the grill with a little padded piece in the center (I think It's meant to have the plastic pulled so you stick it to the center, but again that's a bad idea IMO since it holds fine the way it is and can be reasonably removed).
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:11 AM   #22 (permalink)
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my front plate bracket was riveted and also had the tape holding it on still have to fill the holes what a pain to get it off
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:55 AM   #23 (permalink)
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When I lived in Texas, I decided to not do anything to my '09 Sol and just pay the fine if I ever got stopped. Well, I never did.
I now live in Georgia where there is no front plate requirement. Yeah, I am now legal and feel a little more comfortable driving without holes in my bumper.
Now I just have to figure how to fill the holes in my wife's '07 Torrent front bumper. (She insisted on a front plate. )
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Even though I had the screw tabs, I thought twice about going through all the work involved with removing the front end. The screw tabs are plastic. I carefully snapped the bottom point off by inserting a knife and prying up. That gave me an entry to insert a flat screwdriver from bottom to top and pry out. The old badge snapped in two pieces and the stems fell harmlessly into oblivion. I then used trim adhesive carefully on the stem pieces and holes and placed the emblem in place. Hold with painters tape for an hour or two and you've taken a 3-5 hour job and finished it in 10 minutes. And....no scratches or mis-alligned body parts and broken clips.
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Old 12-27-2013, 02:57 PM   #25 (permalink)
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That's good to know. Those plastic grills are a real challenge to clean. I was thinking about doing metal grills, but the plate holder kind of makes that upgrade pointless to me. Here in VA we need a front plate "unless the vehicle was not manufactured for one." If I pull the plate holder I might be able to convince an officer that there is no place to put one, but like I said, with my luck the policeman would say, "Oh really? I happen to have a Solstice and I know better." I won't even go into the license plate holder debate. A search on the forum will deliver more than anyone would ever want to know. What is BSFI?
strange...my car is an original florida car,we are not required to run front plates and there is no provision for one on my car.take it off and tell him it never had one...
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strange...my car is an original florida car,we are not required to run front plates and there is no provision for one on my car.take it off and tell him it never had one...
The front plate holder was only provided by GM on those cars going to any state that required a front plate.

This can be a problem for cars that originated in a non-front plate state and later go to a front plate state.

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I know when I was looking at buying my GXP I only would buy one without the front plate since it's a pain to remove it and fill the holes
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I know when I was looking at buying my GXP I only would buy one without the front plate since it's a pain to remove it and fill the holes
Don't need holes, the one we bought has push ins for the honeycomb, and has a stick foam where I've seen some designs have the screws. I didn't remove the plastic covering the sticky side so that if I pulled the front plate holder there would be no sticky mess, and of course no holes.
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Many people have pulled the front plate holder and rotated it 180 degrees (so the bottom is at the top) then rotated the plate on the holder, then stuck it back in - and lower. Looks better and is still legal.
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Many people have pulled the front plate holder and rotated it 180 degrees (so the bottom is at the top) then rotated the plate on the holder, then stuck it back in - and lower. Looks better and is still legal.
The only thing I don't like about doing that is with the plate up in the stock position, it does not impede any flow to the IC seeing as it's down low, where you'd be putting the plate (assuming GXP). There still is flow to the IC for sure, but this would put the plate somewhat in front of it.
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