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Old 07-21-2008, 09:42 PM
  
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We made the engine cooling fan module. we even made a few one off fans that used high power electric motors for Kappas with "alternate drivetrains"



Any suggestions on how I can trigger the cooling fan while I am in the staging lanes with the car turned off?
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Old 07-22-2008, 04:02 AM
  
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I'm not put out by the up front cost, I'm put out by how much money I'll sink into it once I get hooked.

ahh yes... i had that same problem... obviously i didn't control it very well...
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Old 08-01-2008, 08:40 AM
  
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Any suggestions on how I can trigger the cooling fan while I am in the staging lanes with the car turned off?
This shouldn't be difficult to do.
I don't have a wiring diagram for the solstice, but the typical auto fan has a temp sensor in the coolant loop that creates a connection to ground to turn the fan on. I'd look for that sensor. If it has a single wire (most likely) remove the connector from the sensor and add a temp jumper wire from the connector to ground. The fan should come on. If so, T splice in a toggle switch conveniently mounted to the driver with the other side of the switch wired to a ground point. Flipping the switch on will turn on the fan. Just don't forget to turn it off or it will eventually drain your battery! (An LED indicator light could be added as an indicator/reminder)
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Looks like you got moved finally, from the just released FastTrack;

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Looks like you got moved finally, from the just released FastTrack;

I saw that as well. However, Steve Wynveen posted on sccaforums.com that there may have been some errors in what was "approved" as some items were NOT recommended for acceptance. He referred to items 8,9, and "some others". Steve also expressed the belief that all WOULD be as printed, but there would have to be some corrective actions taken.

Now, where is my shopping list?
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That isn't in the issue of Fasttrack I just read. What page did that appear on?
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Oh yah, what happened to the ASP Solstice at Topeka?
Reclassing might have been an easier sell had it actually raced there.
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That isn't in the issue of Fasttrack I just read. What page did that appear on?

I didn't think so either until I did a search for "redline". It's here @ http://www.scca.com/documents/Fastra...strack-oct.pdf . On page three there starts "New Business". Scroll down to Item 25 on page 6. Ta da !!!!!!!!! There has been some discussion on sccaforums.com that these changes only become official the first day of the month it is titled for, and also that there were some errors that will be corrected. Apparently the errors are items 8 & 9. SO it looks like it is about a done deal. I know there will be at least one more B/SP at the 2009 Nats, and if Dr. Jones makes the trip there will be two for sure!!!
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Oh yah, what happened to the ASP Solstice at Topeka?
Reclassing might have been an easier sell had it actually raced there.

NTW. Apparently they figured nearly 3000 pounds with less than 350HP just was not going to be able to play with Z06's and Loti.
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Evidently there was a big screwup and the BOD "approved" reclassifications that were not supposed to be submitted to them for approval or something like that. Seems that somone from SCCA, the BOD or SEB should post an official statement on the SCCA website or forum acknowleging the issue, where it actually stands right now, and when the real changes will be announced. This AM I was seriously considering purchasing a Cobalt SS if it had been moved to GS...
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NTW. Apparently they figured nearly 3000 pounds with less than 350HP just was not going to be able to play with Z06's and Loti.

From past experience dealing with the SEB on classing issues, they are much more likely to reclass a car, especially downwards, based on actual times at nationals than just on speculation of it's performance potential. They not only want to see that it is significantly outclassed presently but that it would not be an overdog in the lower class. Not taking the car to Topeka was a major mistake IMHO, no matter how badly they felt it might do. Why bother spending all that money prepping a(n outclassed) car, requesting it be reclassed, then not proving the point by driving it at nationals. Looks to the masses that they possibly wanted to hide the car's true potential to be competitive ASP/overdog BSP car. If it's performance at Topeka proves it is an underdog in front of most all the SEB members (they not only want to see the times, but how competently driven it was as well) resulted in reclassification, it was money/time well spent vs what was already invested. Staying home may result in the SEB saying that it has not yet demonstrated it is an underdog so they leave it as currently classed, and all that prep money was wasted on a(n underdog) car. It is even harder to get a reclassing thru after it has been rejected previously.
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Old 09-24-2008, 08:10 PM
  
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Evidently there was a big screwup and the BOD "approved" reclassifications that were not supposed to be submitted to them for approval or something like that. Seems that somone from SCCA, the BOD or SEB should post an official statement on the SCCA website or forum acknowleging the issue, where it actually stands right now, and when the real changes will be announced. This AM I was seriously considering purchasing a Cobalt SS if it had been moved to GS...

Drinking cool aid again, huh? You want the SCCA to actually act pro-actively?? "I don't care WHO you are, that there is FUNNY!!!!" SCCA = Secret Car Club of America.

On a more serious note, a) pretty much everything WILL come to pass as it's all a clerical f%$k up, and b) G/Stock is a ball buster class.
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From past experience dealing with the SEB on classing issues, they are much more likely to reclass a car, especially downwards, based on actual times at nationals than just on speculation of it's performance potential. They not only want to see that it is significantly outclassed presently but that it would not be an overdog in the lower class. Not taking the car to Topeka was a major mistake IMHO, no matter how badly they felt it might do. Why bother spending all that money prepping a(n outclassed) car, requesting it be reclassed, then not proving the point by driving it at nationals. Looks to the masses that they possibly wanted to hide the car's true potential to be competitive ASP/overdog BSP car. If it's performance at Topeka proves it is an underdog in front of most all the SEB members (they not only want to see the times, but how competently driven it was as well) resulted in reclassification, it was money/time well spent vs what was already invested. Staying home may result in the SEB saying that it has not yet demonstrated it is an underdog so they leave it as currently classed, and all that prep money was wasted on a(n underdog) car. It is even harder to get a reclassing thru after it has been rejected previously.

There have already been posts that sections 8 & 9 are the only ones that are in doubt. The SCCA will take care of Robert's Rules of Order and get it sorted out and then passed. The only stand out issue is the Integra ITR to B/Stock -- which is so stupid that my hair caught on fire and I don't have that much anyway. Look for it to a) stay in D/S or b) move to E or G. As for no A/SP Kappa 2.0's at Nationals, who else than Dr. Johns has prepped one to ANY serious level? The SEB has received enough information to realize that the original assignment to A/SP was at best a ridiculous move. Z06's are 3150 pounds with 400-600 hp and highly refined suspension, and Loti weigh nothing and run fairly well as well. WTF were they thinking? I am just waiting for October 1 when everything becomes "official", and then the credit card starts melting. I get all schpilcus just thinking about it.
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