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Old 07-08-2008, 12:46 PM
  
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I liked your detailed comparo of F1 vs. Direzza

Do you have access to the difference between the RSA and F1 All Season...specifically about:

- How many miles you can get from each tire
- Is your gas mileage better / worse, and by how much?

I eeked out 50k on the original RSA's, and am not too keen on spending $234 at TireRack (or $290 at the dealer) just to hydroplane for another couple years.

Luckily I actually had a conversation on this topic recently with one of the few people who's opinion on tires I trust 100%.

The RS-A tire is an extremely high Rolling Resistance (RR) tire, causing it to greatly impact the fuel economy of a car. The GS-2 on the GXP is actually a very low RR tire which helps the GXP get better fuel economy over the Classic on RS-As. The new F1 All-Season (sometimes referred to as the F1 AS) is apparently one of the best all-season tires you can get. It's actually superior to the GS-2 'summer' tire on the GXP in all forms of handling and performance characteristics. However it's RR is slightly higher than the GS-2 so fuel economy values from it wont be as good as the GS-2 (still much better than the RS-A though) but the gain in performance is more than worth it.

Wear wise I can only speculate.
  • RS-A - Treadwear: 260 Traction: A Temperature: A
  • GS-2 - Treadwear: 300 Traction: A Temperature: A
  • F1 AS - Treadwear: 420 Traction: AA Temperature: A

I drove the RS-A on my base car for 13k miles doing several auto-x's on them, and then the owner after me drove them till 35k miles before replacing them. The GS-2's I shredded through in 21k miles on my GXP thanks to it's higher power levels and doing some auto-x and 1/4 mile runs. Looking at the treadwear values one would surmise the F1 AS should last as long as the RS-A if not longer.
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Old 07-08-2008, 05:21 PM
  
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Very thorough. Thanks again, guys.

You almost had me sold on the GS-2, but since my biggest concern with the RS-As are their wet traction (or lack thereof), I think I'll go with the F1's. Goodyear's site ranks RSA and GS2 the same on wet traction.

DiscountTire, wow, very competitive rates on those F1's. I did the "out the door" calculation on your corporate site, and it's within $100 of drop-shipping from TireRack and paying separately for the install. It's good to see that there are at least two reliable, affordable places to get new soles for our Sols.
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Very thorough. Thanks again, guys.

You almost had me sold on the GS-2, but since my biggest concern with the RS-As are their wet traction (or lack thereof), I think I'll go with the F1's. Goodyear's site ranks RSA and GS2 the same on wet traction.

DiscountTire, wow, very competitive rates on those F1's. I did the "out the door" calculation on your corporate site, and it's within $100 of drop-shipping from TireRack and paying separately for the install. It's good to see that there are at least two reliable, affordable places to get new soles for our Sols.

Good to hear. If you have a store near you, take in the lowest delivered price and see if they will match. They are pretty good about it.
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