Location: Rosamond, CA - Home of Willow Springs Raceway
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Originally Posted by 88FIERO
I doubt it I was just making a comparison.
Maybe they are using some polyurethane or maybe even some harder rubber.
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I'm searching thru corporate releases to see what is avbl to "publish" over here.
Salient point...where the F1 GS D3 is a (de facto) SUMMER TIRE (i.e. ---read dry roads)
The F1 A/S will have superior wet and even snow handling capabilities.
Think NEO SOS run 03-24...you bring your car out of storage early...the roads at 10 a.m. are dry...so off we go
By 2 pm the clouds are forming to the west and the temp drops....light rain followed by wet snow...GS D3's would now be having a problem...the new A/S with carbon fibre will channel thru most wet pavement AND STILL GRIP (thanks to the carbon fibre technology)
and even in light snow.!!!
I am going to score a set of these as soon as they come into production.
I'll track development and keep you all posted.
The wet and dry capabilties of the GS-D3's are top notch, so for us Southerners this tire would not make a difference.
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What can say is I've never seen an all-season out perform a comparable summer only tire in the wet. Even the new Bridgestone RE960AS PP (fastest wet lap for any all-season tire) is much slower than the GS-D3 in the wet.
If I ranked Goodyears current tires for blended dry and wet grip: it would be GS-D3 first, Supercar second and GS-2 a distant 3rd. If the F1 A/S is as good as it's supposed to be it may eclipse the GS-2 for blended dry and wet perfomance. Further solidifying the GS-2's very questionable "summer only" rating.
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Originally Posted by Miles@tirerack
I don't have anything official to say yet...
What can say is I've never seen an all-season out perform a comparable summer only tire in the wet. Even the new Bridgestone RE960AS PP (fastest wet lap for any all-season tire) is much slower than the GS-D3 in the wet.
If I ranked Goodyears current tires for blended dry and wet grip: it would be GS-D3 first, Supercar second and GS-2 a distant 3rd. If the F1 A/S is as good as it's supposed to be it may eclipse the GS-2 for blended dry and wet perfomance. Further solidifying the GS-2's very questionable "summer only" rating.
that's what I was thinking - The GSD3 and the RE050A PPs are awesome in the wet and dry. Don't even think about snow.
A good summer only tire has both good dry AND wet performance. Racing tires (like the RE-01R for example, or my experiences with the BFgoodrich KDs) are near-slick, very low tread depth, and not so good in wet but you get even more dry grip. I'd agree with your ranking, miles, I just wasn't sure about the F1 A/S designation and what 'A/S' means - it sounds like you take it to mean "all season".
If this is the case, then the tire will have used a lower net contact area for the tread design and a class of tread compounds that have some snow capability built in. Build in snow capability, and you loose SOMETHING for the tradeoff, either wet or dry or a little of both.
that's what I was thinking - The GSD3 and the RE050A PPs are awesome in the wet and dry. Don't even think about snow.
A good summer only tire has both good dry AND wet performance. Racing tires (like the RE-01R for example, or my experiences with the BFgoodrich KDs) are near-slick, very low tread depth, and not so good in wet but you get even more dry grip. I'd agree with your ranking, miles, I just wasn't sure about the F1 A/S designation and what 'A/S' means - it sounds like you take it to mean "all season".
If this is the case, then the tire will have used a lower net contact area for the tread design and a class of tread compounds that have some snow capability built in. Build in snow capability, and you loose SOMETHING for the tradeoff, either wet or dry or a little of both.
Exactly. From what I understand this will be an all-season tire like the RE960AS PP.
Location: Rosamond, CA - Home of Willow Springs Raceway
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We were really surprised at how well the RE-01R and Neova did in the wet. They're no RE050A PP but they are still very good.
How would the RE-01R's compare to the GS2's in the wet? Oh yeah, and how are they at say 20 degrees? Thanks.
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or does the tread pattern look like the GS-2? 