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Old 06-02-2008, 06:49 PM
  
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Old 06-03-2008, 06:56 PM
  
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First - go from a 72 chevy truck with a 454 pushing about 500 horse and 500 foot pounds of torque with bald back tires from all of the burn outs to a solstice with ANY type of tire, and traction is never an issue. It's just a case of experience with driving in all types of weather conditions with all types of tires. Sure... some handle better than others, but you should know the limitations of your tires, and not spend your time trying to exceed them where other drivers can be injured.
Second - I hear a lot of talk about how the RSA's suck in the rain, and how the only people that aren't noticing this aren't driving their car and are just a bunch of women. If you are STUPID enough to be RACING your car in the RAIN, and taking it into the TRIPLE DIGITS in the RAIN. You deserve to hydroplane into a fuel tanker and die in a fiery explosion. How STUPID are you to speed in the fricken rain??? No matter what tire you have, rain means be careful. Rain means don't floor it when the light turns green. And rain means not trying to take 1G turns.

Formula one races in the rain... (Bridgestone) So does the German and Australian Sports Car Series... (Dunlop) And the ALMS... (Michelin) Thats where they get technology for wet tires. Except Nascar or course cause they ride on Goodyears. There is no reason to fear wet roads if you have a decent set of tires. You should try it sometime. Why only have fun half the time cause your saddled with those death trap RS-A's. Yes...they really are that bad.
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Old 06-03-2008, 07:01 PM
  
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Tires are to cars what speakers are to stereos.

Last I checked, speakers can't kill you... RS-A's CAN !!!
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:19 PM
  
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Envious06 : Last I checked, speakers can't kill you... RS-A's CAN !!!
Lack of driving ability can kill you too.
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Old 06-03-2008, 09:43 PM
  
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I gave my tires to someone with a GTO. Can't wait to hear his feedback. I told him to be carefull & DON"T go over 30 in the rain. I think I'll take out some life insurance on him!
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Old 06-03-2008, 11:41 PM
  
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Last I checked, speakers can't kill you... RS-A's CAN !!!

They are the most important single component of the system.

You can have a distortion free 600 Watt system, but pushing cheap, tinny speakers, you might as well listen on on old AM radio.

Same for tires. A Solstice on GS-D3s is going to outperform a Ferrari Enzo on high-profile 60's era bias-ply tires. All the power and suspension in the world isn't worth spit if you can't put it down to the ground. Tires are THE most important component of your entire car. The heart is the engine, but without great tires everything else doesn't work.
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Old 06-04-2008, 06:46 AM
  
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Formula one races in the rain... (Bridgestone) So does the German and Australian Sports Car Series... (Dunlop) And the ALMS... (Michelin) Thats where they get technology for wet tires. Except Nascar or course cause they ride on Goodyears. There is no reason to fear wet roads if you have a decent set of tires. You should try it sometime. Why only have fun half the time cause your saddled with those death trap RS-A's. Yes...they really are that bad.

I'm pretty sure the downforce of the spoilers and aerodynamics of the car help a lot too. Not too mention driving ability.
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:00 AM
  
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I'm pretty sure the downforce of the spoilers and aerodynamics of the car help a lot too. Not too mention driving ability.

If your having confidence problems maybe you should try Skip Barber's. He can teach you how to drive in the wet. But a good set of tires sure does help.
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If your having confidence problems maybe you should try Skip Barber's. He can teach you how to drive in the wet. But a good set of tires sure does help.

I had plenty of confidence in my RSA's in the rain.
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Old 06-04-2008, 08:45 AM
  
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If your having confidence problems maybe you should try Skip Barber's. He can teach you how to drive in the wet. But a good set of tires sure does help.

I have not confidence problems. (See the point about the truck with bald tires... drove it quite a bit in the rain) My point was that people should know the limits of their equipment, and NOT drive fast in the rain. ESPECIALLY with RSA's.
I don't want to hear SH*T about somebody wrecking their car in the rain with RSA's if they wrecked while purposefully exceeding the limits of their tires.
I knew in my truck that I couldn't gun it in the rain... so guess what... I didn't gun it in the fricken rain.
Case closed.
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Old 06-04-2008, 02:31 PM
  
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Envious06 : Amen bro, I really can't believe that there aren't more people speaking up. I didn't put more than 500 miles on my RSA's and I knew that something wasn't right. Those tires weren't any good in ANY conditions. (Yes, they were properly inflated, and yes, I know how to drive) They are as unpredictable as a snake, give you absolutely no confidence at all while driving and white knuckled in the rain and snow. Went to a different tire and brought the soul out of my Solstice.
If your having control problems maybe you should try Skip Barber's. He can teach you how to drive in the wet.
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Luckily, I found some chump at work that needed 18" tires. I showed him the Tire Rack page that had them priced at an amazing $225 apiece. So when I offered him the whole set for $300 he jumped on it thinking he was getting the deal of the century. Little does he know the roller coaster ride that he's in for. Any car riding on RSA's are an accident waiting to happen plain and simple.

So you think these tires are "dangerous deathtraps", but will happily sell them to someone else.
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Formula one races in the rain... (Bridgestone) So does the German and Australian Sports Car Series... (Dunlop) And the ALMS... (Michelin) Thats where they get technology for wet tires. Except Nascar or course cause they ride on Goodyears. There is no reason to fear wet roads if you have a decent set of tires. You should try it sometime. Why only have fun half the time cause your saddled with those death trap RS-A's. Yes...they really are that bad.
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I race in the rain in the SCCA on Goodyears and they're great. The comment above is pointless in this discussion about RSAs.

Fact is, RSAs are average OEM all seasons.

I think we have a troll here....
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Old 06-04-2008, 11:13 PM
  
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I race in the rain in the SCCA on Goodyears and they're great. The comment above is pointless in this discussion about RSAs.

Fact is, RSAs are average OEM all seasons.

I think we have a troll here....

I got your troll...HANGIN LOW...Any place anytime SCCA boy...I'll show you how the old school guys get it done.
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If your having control problems maybe you should try Skip Barber's. He can teach you how to drive in the wet.

So you think these tires are "dangerous deathtraps", but will happily sell them to someone else.

Yeah...I dumped them on someone who had a 300C that was heavy enough to make them work...THEY DON'T WORK ON SOLSTICES...Try a real set of tires and open your eyes cheapskate. Oh, I forgot, nobody in Kentucky knows how to drive anyway so you would appear normal when you all over the road !
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I have not confidence problems. (See the point about the truck with bald tires... drove it qui