Yeah...I dumped them on someone who had a 300C that was heavy enough to make them work...THEY DON'T WORK ON SOLSTICES...Try a real set of tires and open your eyes cheapskate. Oh, I forgot, nobody in Kentucky knows how to drive anyway so you would appear normal when you all over the road !
Do you not understand how tires work? If the RSA was so dangerous on a 2900lb Solstice, they could never possibly handle supporting a 4000lb+ 300C. A poor tire on a lighter car will be an abysmal tire on a much heavier car.
The RSA is an AVERAGE tire. Nothing that needs a recall, a special warning or anything of the sort. It probably got picked because it met whatever noise and comfort targets someone at GM set.
I could understand an argument that they aren't a great performing tire, and have many shortcomings. I don't think anyone here would disagree.
However, if they are this much of a problem (DANGEROUS, need to be RECALLED) with you behind the wheel, maybe you need to learn how to drive before you spend any more money masking your lack of skill with increasingly stickier and more expensive tires. The reality is, the tires have a decent (but not great) level of grip in the dry and wet, and (at least in the dry) have a progressive break away that is relatively easy to catch and control. I won't be replacing mine with another set of these tires, as the maximum grip levels demanded by the extra weight and speeds that can be attained in my car are beyond the performance envelope of the RSA. In the meantime, I won't be telling anyone that they need to replace the tire before it wears out if they only drive on the steet.
Do you not understand how tires work? If the RSA was so dangerous on a 2900lb Solstice, they could never possibly handle supporting a 4000lb+ 300C. A poor tire on a lighter car will be an abysmal tire on a much heavier car.
The RSA is an AVERAGE tire. Nothing that needs a recall, a special warning or anything of the sort. It probably got picked because it met whatever noise and comfort targets someone at GM set.
I could understand an argument that they aren't a great performing tire, and have many shortcomings. I don't think anyone here would disagree.
However, if they are this much of a problem (DANGEROUS, need to be RECALLED) with you behind the wheel, maybe you need to learn how to drive before you spend any more money masking your lack of skill with increasingly stickier and more expensive tires. The reality is, the tires have a decent (but not great) level of grip in the dry and wet, and (at least in the dry) have a progressive break away that is relatively easy to catch and control. I won't be replacing mine with another set of these tires, as the maximum grip levels demanded by the extra weight and speeds that can be attained in my car are beyond the performance envelope of the RSA. In the meantime, I won't be telling anyone that they need to replace the tire before it wears out if they only drive on the steet.
The tire was designed for OEM application on the Nissan Maxima, a 3500 lb car. Some rube beancounter decided it would work on a Solstice, it doesn't. I'm a little tired of this I don't know how to drive crap as it seems to be the only comeback that you have for not upgrading. I LOVE to drive, you pantywastes just want to get from A to B. For you guys the RS-A will do just fine. But my skills deserve better.
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My RSA's give me the feeling that I'm living 'dangerously'. Unlike those GXP owners, I'm a REAL risk taker. 9,xxx miles worth of C-R-A-Z-Y risk so far. Of course, once I've worn them out, I'll buy a set of nice, safe, high-traction tires as replacements. A person can only live on the edge for so long.
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RSA is a brand for Goodyear and has been around for sometime. Brands, including RSA, undergo continual development. What may have been true when the RSA was originally developed is no longer the case today. They are average tires that meet many OEM criteria and therefore appear on several different brand autos as OEM tires.
Envious06 : The tire was designed for OEM application on the Nissan Maxima, a 3500 lb car. Some rube beancounter decided it would work on a Solstice, it doesn't. I'm a little tired of this I don't know how to drive crap as it seems to be the only comeback that you have for not upgrading. I LOVE to drive, you pantywastes just want to get from A to B. For you guys the RS-A will do just fine. But my skills deserve better.
The proper spelling is "pantywaist" not "pantywaste". But regardless of spelling it really isn't the proper insult. I'm sure if you try a little harder you can find a more applicable put-down.
Deserve, or require ?
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Pantywaist would be the elastic part around the panties. Which contains rubber compound, which tires are made of......So, pantywaist may indeed be a better choice and would not be considered hi-jacking the thread.
As for the tires, BAH...they're stockers.
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The tire was designed for OEM application on the Nissan Maxima, a 3500 lb car. Some rube beancounter decided it would work on a Solstice, it doesn't. I'm a little tired of this I don't know how to drive crap as it seems to be the only comeback that you have for not upgrading. I LOVE to drive, you pantywastes just want to get from A to B. For you guys the RS-A will do just fine. But my skills deserve better.
The same tire generally works better when the load (vehicle mass) is reduced as it works less hard, can run cooler (so it stays more consistent during hard use and doesn't turn greasy.) The limits of a 2900lb car on a particular tire are much higher than the limits of a 3500 or 4000lb+ car running on the same tire.
I'm not satisfied with the RSA, but I'm not having any problems driving within their capabilities, which are fairly decent. They aren't great, but GM doesn't sell it as a "racy" car or a trackday special. If that was the case, the choice of tire would be worse than "dissapointing."
My Solstice weighs probably 150lbs more than yours, exclusive of driver, puts more mass over the nose, and has more than double the horsepower. I'm not having any problems exploring the limits of the tires, and I'm still alive. It's called car control. They're gone as soon as I pick a wheel package that can suit at least a 285 in the rear so I can hook up from the line and after a hard shift into any of my four non-overdrive gears.
It's not like I don't know what I'm missing versus stickier tires, I daily drive a Miata on DOT-Rs and my other car is running on GS-D3s. I'm not going to wait for my RSAs to wear out before I change them, but I am perfectly able to get around on them AND ENJOY 'spirited' driving until I can find a wheel and tire package that is appropriate for my tastes and the needs of the car can be found.
As mentioned the RS-A has been around for a while and were not designed for the Maxima. They use them on the Crown Vic cop cars even. The version on our car is actually different than the one on the Nissan's at that. There is a different code on the OEM Solstice tires since they were specially designed by GoodYear with some changes for our car.
'Pantywaist' is the correct spelling.
It's just like some people who don't know anything will use "tow the line" instead of "toe the line."
At this point, I think we've determined two things:
1. You can't drive.
2. You can't spell.
As mentioned the RS-A has been around for a while and were not designed for the Maxima. They use them on the Crown Vic cop cars even. The version on our car is actually different than the one on the Nissan's at that. There is a different code on the OEM Solstice tires since they were specially designed by GoodYear with some changes for our car.
Tire choice is always tough. It's a set of compromises--no matter what preferences are selected, there will be some that are not met.
Basically, the properties which make for the best dry traction are very high tread face to grove area ratios and softer rubber compounds. The upper limit of which is no groves at all--slicks--make for the worst wet traction due to hydroplaning. Properties wh
for so long.