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Old 05-07-2006, 10:09 AM
   Carrier Replacement Thread [related to rear differential leak or whine]
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It seems that the rear Carrier might be the root cause in the leaking differential issue for some cars? Maybe, maybe not? I would like this thread to serve a tracking thread for the replacement of the rear carrier. If you have had this assembly replaced on your car please post the following information. Copy and paste as needed.

Carrier Replacement:

When did you buy your car?
When did you put your car into service?
Did you have a leaking Diff.?
Did you have a pinion seal replaced before as a fix for the leak?
Date and mileage when was your first leak was noticed?
Date and mileage when Carrier was replaced?
Does your car have a limited slip differential? (LSD)
Which part no. was used in the replacement?
How long did the Carrier replacement take?
Did you have the driveline “clunk” before the carrier was replaced?
Do you have the “clunk” now?
Do you notice any other changes that might be attributed to the Carrier replacement?
Any leaks since the Carrier was replaced?

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Old 05-08-2006, 11:30 PM
  
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Post#..Leak/Whine..Date Repl.Mileage.LSD.Clnk.VIN......Part#........UserNa me

....7..................................11392....Y. ...N...101113..10344863..2091351
.................................................. ............102986.................2late
...17......Whine......07/07/06...5000....Y....Y...............15825073..archer
...10....................05/18/06...5224....Y....Y...105913..15825073..AztekzRpur ty
....8....................................5039..... ....N...108178..15825073..beezel
.................................................. ............105531.................daveritag
...15......Whine......06/20/06...6000....Y....N...111230..15825073..Devoking
.................................................. .......................................Dj Pep (missing since 03/01/06)
....9.....................05/01/06....................................15825073..Fa rTooDeep
...16......Whine......06/19/06...9558...Y...lash.101411...15825073..gator99
...19.......Leak.......06/28/06...5142...Y....Y...102773...15825073..glider rider
...11.....................in shop....3100....Y....N...114226..................k arilynhart
.................................................. .Y....N...000948..................Mactown
.................................................. .Y...Occ.000369.................Rowan1008
.................................................. .Y....Y...106281..................scubaman
.................................................. .Y...Y...109131..................slychick
.................................................. .Y...Y...107020..................solstice4MLB
....19.....Both........07/11/06...8125...Y....N...000741...15825073..SolWhat?





Pinion seal part number not changed, still 88996592
Old carrier part number is 10344863
New carrier part number is 15825074 or 15825073 ???

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i thought the leak was related to the pinion bearing seal? the pinion is a completely different part than the carrier. so fixing the pinion leak would not require replacing the carrier, just removing and reinstalling it
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i thought the leak was related to the pinion bearing seal? the pinion is a completely different part than the carrier. so fixing the pinion leak would not require replacing the carrier, just removing and reinstalling it
In some cases the leaking diff.could not be given a long term "fix" by replacing a pinion seal or faulty vent valve. There have been several owners that have needed the entire rear "Carrier" replaced to remedy the issue. The purpose of this thread is to see how many owners have needed to go this route. I also believe there are two part numbers being used in this replacement. One Carrier assembly with a new number seems to be newly revised, while the other is the older original part #. I will try to track down both part numbers for the rear Carrier.
Found it:
Per windface: "#10344863 is the old number. #15825073 is the new one, with a revised front mount."

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i thought the leak was related to the pinion bearing seal? the pinion is a completely different part than the carrier. so fixing the pinion leak would not require replacing the carrier, just removing and reinstalling it

I think you're right, TMac.

Many of the carriers have been replaced because of a whining noise (from the carrier, dummy, not the driver! )

But some who have had their pinion seal leaks return have gotten new carriers too.

So I guess GM is still investigating.

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Carrier Replacement:

When did you buy your car? N/A
When did you put your car into service? October 26, 2005
Did you have a leaking Diff.? Yes, I had drips on the floor
Did you have a pinion seal replaced before as a fix for the leak? No
Date and mileage when was your first leak was noticed?
February 13, 2006 7497
Mileage when Carrier was replaced? 11,392
Which part no. was used in the replacement? 10344863
How long did the Carrier replacement take? Less than One Day
Did you have the driveline “clunk” before the carrier was replaced? Never
Do you have the “clunk” now? No
Do you notice any other changes that might be attributed to the Carrier replacement? Another Leak
Any leaks since the Carrier was replaced? Not yet
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Carrier Replacement:

When did you buy your car? 01/14/06
When did you put your car into service? 05/01/06
Did you have a leaking Diff.? NO
Did you have a pinion seal replaced before as a fix for the leak? NO
Date and mileage when was your first leak was noticed? N/A
Mileage when Carrier was replaced? 5039
Which part no. was used in the replacement? 15825073
How long did the Carrier replacement take? 1 DAY
Did you have the driveline “clunk” before the carrier was replaced? NOT SURE
Do you have the “clunk” now? NO
Do you notice any other changes that might be attributed to the Carrier replacement? A LOUD WHINE
Any leaks since the Carrier was replaced? NO
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Got my new carrier (15825073 ) installed yesterday (05/01/06) and BINGO, no leak and NO MORE CLUNK. I was absolutely amazed at what a difference it made. I thought maybe my diff whine would be lessened but believe it or not, the car FEELS very different. Like there is more power in the 2-3k rpm range.

When did you buy your car? 02/17/06
When did you put your car into service? 02/17/06
Did you have a leaking Diff.? Yes
Did you have a pinion seal replaced before as a fix for the leak?
Date and mileage when was your first leak was noticed?
Date and mileage when Carrier was replaced? 05/01/06
Does your car have a limited slip differential? (LSD)
Which part no. was used in the replacement? 15825073
How long did the Carrier replacement take?
Did you have the driveline “clunk” before the carrier was replaced? Yes
Do you have the “clunk” now? No
Do you notice any other changes that might be attributed to the Carrier replacement?
Any leaks since the Carrier was replaced?


Just to update FarTooDeep, until he posts to this thread, then I'll delete this one.

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When did you buy your car? 1/9/06
When did you put your car into service? 5/16/06
Did you have a leaking Diff.? Yes
Did you have a pinion seal replaced before as a fix for the leak? No
Date and mileage when was your first leak was noticed? 4500
Date and mileage when Carrier was replaced? 5/18/06 5224
Does your car have a limited slip differential? (LSD) Yes
Which part no. was used in the replacement? 15825073
How long did the Carrier replacement take? 2 days
Did you have the driveline “clunk” before the carrier was replaced? Big Time!
Do you have the “clunk” now? It's baaaaaccckkk. Took about 500 miles
Do you notice any other changes that might be attributed to the Carrier replacement? Old whine at 65mph is gone, new lesser whine at 30-40
Any leaks since the Carrier was replaced? No.

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When did you buy your car? 4-17-06
When did you put your car into service?5-16-06
Did you have a leaking Diff.? Yes
Did you have a pinion seal replaced before as a fix for the leak? Yes
Date and mileage when was your first leak was noticed? 5-08-06, 2150
Date and mileage when Carrier was replaced? 5-24-06, 3100
Does your car have a limited slip differential? (LSD) Yes
Which part no. was used in the replacement? Don't know
How long did the Carrier replacement take? 8 days
Did you have the driveline “clunk” before the carrier was replaced? No
Do you have the “clunk” now? No (have automatic)
Do you notice any other changes that might be attributed to the Carrier replacement? No
Any leaks since the Carrier was replaced? No
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When did you buy your car? 2-8-06
When did you put your car into service?6-6-06 (666)
Did you have a leaking Diff.?Yes
Did you have a pinion seal replaced before as a fix for the leak?Yes
Date and mileage when was your first leak was noticed?5-08-06, 2150 on or about.
Date and mileage when Carrier was replaced? 5310 (still at dealer waiting for part)
Does your car have a limited slip differential? (LSD) Yes
Which part no. was used in the replacement?Don't know yet
How long did the Carrier replacement take?one week so far, Still waiting
Did you have the driveline “clunk” before the carrier was replaced?yes Do you have the “clunk” now?N/A
Do you notice any other changes that might be attributed to the Carrier replacement?Loud whine at slow speed while turning in parking lots
Any leaks since the Carrier was replaced?[/quote]Don't know yet

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When did you buy your car? 09-22-05
When did you put your car into service? 6-12-06
Did you have a leaking Diff.? Not sure, nobody really is either.
Did you have a pinion seal replaced before as a fix for the leak? Nothing
Date and mileage when was your first leak was noticed? 06-10-06, 1135 KM
Date and mileage when Carrier was replaced? N/A
Does your car have a limited slip differential? (LSD) Yes
Which part no. was used in the replacement? N/A
How long did the Carrier replacement take? In and out in about 8 hrs. No repair
Did you have the driveline “clunk” before the carrier was replaced? NO
Do you have the “clunk” now? NO
Do you notice any other changes that might be attributed to the Carrier replacement? NO. Just a BRUTAL job with my fit problem.. they only made it worse

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I am going to still go out on the limb and say that the faulty overflow valve is the croux of this whole Diferential problem.
The valve is not working properly and is letting gear fluid out when it should not, consequently as you drive the gear oil gets lower and lower and not lubricating the gears as it should, they overheat, the tolerances start to go south, the diferential starts to whine, the rest is history.
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