When I get the vehicle back (hopefully by the end of next week) I'll post the transmission service performed prior to the transmission's complete replacement so everyone will have the specifics. I'll even scan and post the work order receipt from the dealer, if that's possible here.
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Originally Posted by Joemama
When I get the vehicle back (hopefully by the end of next week) I'll post the transmission service performed prior to the transmission's complete replacement so everyone will have the specifics. I'll even scan and post the work order receipt from the dealer, if that's possible here.
Wouldn't worry about scanning the work order reciept, usually it just has code numbers, generic repair terms, labor operation numbers and part numbers and really doesn't tell the story. Your follow up post about the discussions you had with the dealership will be of more importance to the site's knowledge base.
Actually there is another thing you can do, make sure your dealership files a Field Product Report on what they find. Even if they also have a TAC case. You too Layne Lovett. Have Dealerships Submit Field Product Reports
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Last edited by Small Dealer : 07-06-2006 at 11:30 AM.
AWESOME !! ....... yeah people get emotional and we can all sift thru that !! and get our feathers ruffled..
..bottom line the forum is awesome.....we learn sooo much here..... its good to see both good and bad.. i wouldn't want it any other way
. learning from each other and not feeling alone !
! great job letting it roll..... modulators..lol.. referrees...and rodeo clowns...unsung heroes !!...lol........
I love to hear the good things about the Sol (and there are a lot of positives) but we also need to hear the bad. We should all be able to come to the forum when we have a problem so that we get an education on specific issues. Chances are that if you are experiencing a specific problem others have already been through it , so from that perspective knowing about the negatives is becomes a positive : )
Being able to understand a problem and knowing what the fix is before going in for service is a tremendous plus and it increases the probability that I'll get my issue(s) resolved. Through SolsticeForum I've been able to learn a lot about certain inherant issues the Sol has so when they happen I know "Oh, that's just a wire tie on a cable in the door assembly, or a piece of felt in trunk."
My car's in for the "whine" yersterday and today . . . it is excessive and even the mechanic and service manager are telling me thatsomething drastic is wrong. With the help of the forum I have a pretty good idea it's the differential. I'm thankful for the all the negative discussions because I'm now informed and not as susceptible to having the wool pulled over my eyes.
Plus, I'm pretty sure there are GM people are reading the forum. They may even be using the site to gage which issues are or potentially could "ding" the image of their new car.
It is important to share not only the positive, but the negative/problems/defects/deficiencies as well. This is the real world to me.
If your tranny fails, you might see things a bit differently. I hope neither you, I or anyone else has a problem majorly speaking with any component of this car. But the reality is, these are man made vehicles, man conceived vehicles, and are gonna have failures that will make you angry and upset at the manufacturer. The warranty is one thing. But, put yourself in JoMama's shoes, and you might see this from a different perspective. I do...
I feel for JoeMama...my main point though is presentation. Keeping your cool can go a long way and from the posts JoeMama made, I saw a lot of attitude. Asking for help for a problem is great, but coming to this site to spew is going to get comments from folks like me. I get a little defensive over the word crap when it's used to describe this car.....
I have an appointment with my dealer to check out my auto transmission ...mainly because of what I learned here--but from some positive members in a very nice way. It's a better world when we all play nice, which includes putting the "negatives" out in a much "nicer" way.
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This thread is very interesting. First off some poor guy that overpaid for his car is maligned because his tranny is defective. He gets jumped on because some of you automatically figured he was a troll. Now another guy shows up with a defective tranny and as soon as he idicates the magic "water contamianation" there seem to be a collective backing off of sorts. Folks let's get this straight once and for all. Being in denial of other peoples problems does not do this forum one bit of good. We are all here to learn and communicate info. on a car that we all love and admire. It would seem that some feel compelled to wave the Solstice flag and maintain that there can not bad problems on this car. Well I hate to tell you, there are and there will be more in the future. We all need to step back and not shoot every messenger with bad news. I can't speak for you, but I want to know as much about this car as I can before I make my deal. Both the good and the bad. Members of most car sites get very protective of the cars featured within that site. It's hard to be objective when you have shelled out serious money on a car. If your Solstice is without issues that's great, but you need to cut some slack to other owners that for whatever reason have got serious issues.
As far as this auto tranny issue goes, it would appear that there are more cars at risk than was indicated by GM. Time will tell how many are effected.The fact remains, there should not have been any. If you have been around awhile we all thought that the leaking top, and pinion leak issues would go away several months after the first 1K cars were shipped. They were not and are still an issue for some new owners today. I guess all that really matters is that the 07 models are "right". If we see the same issues for them than there is going to be a big problem for the Kappa in the future.
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At that point the hot tub would be garbage. LOL.......j/k Small Dealer.
Actually in this neck of the woods many miles to the East, it would make a very large and oh so effective boat mooring.
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Does anyone know what changes, if any, were made to the 2007 (non-GXPs). I'd be surprised if they changed anything. I think the new 2007s will be identical to the late model 2006s, like mine. Same, leaks, clunks, rubbed off paint, watery transmisison fluid, noisy top, sagging seats, missaligned body parts, funky Air conditioning and more fun to drive than anything I've owned in more than 25 years, and it keeps getting better every time I'm behind the wheel...WoooHooo!
This thread is very interesting. First off some poor guy that overpaid for his car is maligned because his tranny is defective. He gets jumped on because some of you automatically figured he was a troll. Now another guy shows up with a defective tranny and as soon as he idicates the magic "water contamianation" there seem to be a collective backing off of sorts. Folks let's get this straight once and for all. Being in denial of other peoples problems does not do this forum one bit of good. We are all here to learn and communicate info on a car that we all love and admire. It would seem that some feel compelled to wave the Solstice flag and maintain that there can not bad problems on this car. Well I hate to tell you, there are and there will be more in the future. We all need to step back and not shoot every messenger with bad news. I can't speak for you, but I want to know as much about this car as I can before I make my deal.Both the good and the bad. Members of most car sites get very protective of the cars featured within that site. It's hard to be objective when you have shelled out serious money on a car. If your Solstice is without issues that's great, but you need to cut some slack to other owners that for whatever reason have got serious issues.
As far as this auto tranny issue goes, it would appear that there are more cars at risk than was indicated by GM. Time will tell how many are effected.The fact remains, there should not have been any. If you have been around awhile we all thought that the leaking top, and pinion leak issues would go away several months after the first 1K cars were shipped. They were not and are still an issue for some new owners today. I guess all that really matters is that the 07 models are "right". If we see the same issues for them than there is going to be a big problem for the Kappa in the future.
Thank you Chip for stating my sentiments much better than I could. You state my thoughts and feelings exactly. It is a good thing too, that more folks chime in about the "reality" of this car, rather than whitewashing all the negatives and hyping only the positive. I am as much in love with this vehicle as anyone else, but I'm gonna call a spade a spade, a lemon a lemon, and a poor design a poor design.
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Everyone's responses to the transmission problems some owners are experiencing are very interesting to read. If it was your car having these problems you might not choose your words so carefully as to not offend a happy buyer. Luckily for us our Sol has almost 10,000 miles and has been a creampuff, not so for our BMW. When my 2000 BMW had 50,844 on it the transmission went. I bought the car new, only had it serviced at the dealer, and had the oil changed at the first 1,000 miles. When they checked there was no fluid in the transmission. Thanks to the forum and the BMW forum I found that there were quite a few cars same model and year with the same problem. I got the dealer to pay for the new transmission, but I do think my Bimmer is a faulty car with a poorly designed transmission.To me, it is an expensive piece of crap, to another owner it might not be true, but that is my reality. Now, I just read in this thread the Solstice has the same transmission as my 323i, I hope I have better luck with my Solstice, but if I don't I would hope to find useful info from the forum and some support.
Last edited by wife of cdb : 07-07-2006 at 09:08 AM.
This thread is very interesting. First off some poor guy that overpaid for his car is maligned because his tranny is defective. He gets jumped on because some of you automatically figured he was a troll. Now another guy shows up with a defective tranny and as soon as he idicates the magic "water contamianation" there seem to be a collective backing off of sorts. Folks let's get this straight once and for all. Being in denial of other peoples problems does not do this forum one bit of good.
Chip, I understand your desire to get all the problems out in the open but the membership was reacting to the overall tone of both posts that were highly negative and people smelled that they could possibly just be stirring up trouble (1st post, highly negative words, etc). Nobody was maligning the guy for over-paying but he brought that issue up himself as part of his rant on why the car was a POC so people just wanted to point out that is not a valid issue in the general population of buyers. I really don't think the members here want to cover anything up but by the same token people will answer criticisms they feel are overly harsh. I really don't think it was the information that was being maligned here, more the way it was delivered. Hopefully these guys just got off on the wrong foot and will bring back valuable information on their defects.
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Sorry Chip, guilty as charged. I feel like a real Azz. I even called the dealer and salesman she posted and talked to them about the car. It's a real car with a real problem, and I'm going to wait a lot longer before I call 'troll' in the future. Lesson learned.