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Old 07-12-2007, 11:23 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Thanks for clarifying. Well I dropped mine off at the dealer this morning, so hopefully I'll get the call from them soon.
The dealership is doing the install?

I was looking forward to a detailed post on all the fun.

Look forward to at least a review. Oh, see if you can scoop the install instructions.
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well if it hadn't been for the programing due to XM, I would have believe me. Looking through the instructions it looks very easy to do. If I get them back, I'll see if I can scan them in for you guys.

I was halfway tempted to disconnect the XM so that I could do the install myself, but I got the part at darn near cost, so I figured I'd suck it up and have it done right
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Old 07-12-2007, 02:08 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Looking through the instructions it looks very easy to do. If I get them back, I'll see if I can scan them in.

Generally what we try to do here, is cases like this, is copy the instructions for the car's service folder and give the original to the owner and ask them to keep with their manuals.
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Old 07-12-2007, 07:13 PM   #34 (permalink)
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well if it hadn't been for the programing due to XM, I would have believe me. Looking through the instructions it looks very easy to do. If I get them back, I'll see if I can scan them in for you guys.

I was halfway tempted to disconnect the XM so that I could do the install myself, but I got the part at darn near cost, so I figured I'd suck it up and have it done right
Was your price better than the $131.33 from the big online parts shop we all know to use but can't post the name of?

Just wondering... I have an mp3 player (non-iPod) but would like the additional control via the steering wheel buttons. I'd have to pick up the adapter and an iPod and sell my mp3 player then, but if this works well, then I'm for it.
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Old 07-12-2007, 09:51 PM   #35 (permalink)
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GM PART # 19171028
CATEGORY: Accessories & Misc.
PACK QTY: 1
CORE CHARGE: $0.00
GM LIST: $159.00
OUR PRICE: $131.33


DESCRIPTION: MODULE PKG,PERSONAL AUDIO LINK

Personal Audio Link provides full "read" functionality* of the iPod, such as sorting by category (genre, playlist, artist, album, song, podcast or audiobook) and shuffling songs/titles within a selected category. The iPod-PAL connection is concealed inside the glove compartment (or auxiliary glove compartment, depending on vehicle) so there are no messy extraneous wires. The iPod also charges while connected to the PAL with the vehicle on.

*iPod settings and content cannot be changed using the PAL.

Please check before ordering to insure this is the correct part number for your vehicle.
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The dealership is doing the install?

I was looking forward to a detailed post on all the fun.

Look forward to at least a review. Oh, see if you can scoop the install instructions.
Yes. Post a review including total cost with installation!
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Old 07-13-2007, 07:54 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Well, you might get a writeup after all SD...has a slight change of plans...

I'll keep you guys posted, I hope to do it this weekend barring any rain (garage is a little cramped for this at the moment) and will take plenty of pictures.

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Yes it was by a little bit and I picked it up so no shipping. Dealer installation was quoted substantially higher then the cost of the part.
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Old 07-13-2007, 02:42 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Installation is not difficult at all. It should take a competent Mechanic less than an hour to install and full instructions are included in each kit. The Soltice takes a bit more disassembly than some installations and if the vehicle is equipped with XM it adds a bit more time to the installation. XM equipped vehicles require programming so you will need access to a Tech 2 in order to complete the installation.

The PAL is not compatible with the base U1C radio as this radio has no XM compatible audio interface.

All of the ADIs should have product in stock by now (Part Number 19171028) so your Dealer can order individual units through them.

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Was wondering if you guys were planning on releasing adapters for any of the other mp3 players out there? There's a company called IME making a cable that is supposed to work with 4 of the major players by connecting different ends to it where the device hooks in (iPod, Zune, Zem and Sansa). I want the same functionality but without having to buy an iPod.

What can I say, I'm an Apple hater.
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okiedokie....I ordered my P.A.L. today at lunch (traded my GM car cover credit for the part and install price) told them to make me a print out of all instructions for install.

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Was wondering if you guys were planning on releasing adapters for any of the other mp3 players out there? There's a company called IME making a cable that is supposed to work with 4 of the major players by connecting different ends to it where the device hooks in (iPod, Zune, Zem and Sansa). I want the same functionality but without having to buy an iPod.

What can I say, I'm an Apple hater.
It seems like most auto manufacturers have picked the ipod as the main one to support (Though apparently only BMW supports the iphone). I wish they just worked with good ole' USB.
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I'm wondering if this part is made by Peripheral Electronics. They produce OEM solutions for the iPod and within the last month had announced new GM integration. I'll let you guys google the company if interested in more information. They've had a solution for the Solstice for a while but it didn't work properly and as mentioned, released an updated GM module. Coincidence?
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I'm wondering if this part is made by Peripheral Electronics. They produce OEM solutions for the iPod and within the last month had announced new GM integration. I'll let you guys google the company if interested in more information. They've had a solution for the Solstice for a while but it didn't work properly and as mentioned, released an updated GM module. Coincidence?
I've thought about this as well, but all the Peripheral documentation that is out there is referencing the old style radios with the individual buttons for presets, not our newer global radio style.

Seeing as you can order the GM version from online sources cheaper than I can find the Peripheral solution, I'm leaning towards the GM setup at this time... especially since we know it works with our cars.
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Installed mine this morning, took just over an hour to complete.

Sadly my camera batteries died during the dash removal (wife left the camera on over night ), so I didn't get hardly any pictures.


The install is very simple.
Follow AztekzRpurty's thread w/ pictures to see how to pull the dash out. Then follow the instructions that come with the PAL to complete the install.

Like I said, I finished the install in about 75 minutes. Then took it to the dealer to run the Tech 2 programing since I have XM, and that took about another 15 minutes.

If anyone wants, I can scan and upload the instructions from work on Monday. But really, there isn't much too it beyond the removal of the dash, and the referenced thread above covers that very well.


In regards to the performance of the unit, I am very pleased with it. The sound quality is excellent (though using the aux-in wasn't bad before) and once you get familiar with how the interface works, it is easy to use.
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Installed mine this morning, took just over an hour to complete.

Sadly my camera batteries died during the dash removal (wife left the camera on over night ), so I didn't get hardly any pictures.


The install is very simple.
Follow AztekzRpurty's thread w/ pictures to see how to pull the dash out. Then follow the instructions that come with the PAL to complete the install.

Like I said, I finished the install in about 75 minutes. Then took it to the dealer to run the Tech 2 programing since I have XM, and that took about another 15 minutes.

If anyone wants, I can scan and upload the instructions from work on Monday. But really, there isn't much too it beyond the removal of the dash, and the referenced thread above covers that very well.


In regards to the performance of the unit, I am very pleased with it. The sound quality is excellent (though using the aux-in wasn't bad before) and once you get familiar with how the interface works, it is easy to use.
Good to hear. Now I just have to bite the bullet and buy an iPod (I have a Creative MP3 player right now) and this PAL unit.

Is the $131 price a decent price, or is the way you got yours open to all? Having to dump all this money to replace my MP3 to get something to work better with the car isn't my top priority right now. I'd rather save the money and put it towards the car in other ways... but it's dangerous looking at my players screen and driving!
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$131 is a good price, your probably not likely to do better unless you know someone that works at the dealership and gives you an employee discount. Doing the install yourself should also save a chunk of change.

It is a bit to spend on the audio (particularly if you have to buy the ipod), but like you said, fiddling with the mp3 player while driving probably isn't the best idea, and I didn't like mine sliding around all over the car. Much nicer to have it sitting in the glovebox charging.
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