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07-28-2007, 02:53 PM

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	SorcererXIII Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Orlando, FL	Quote: Originally Posted by Squirrel Boy my Sol survived a "dealer install" and it only took them 6 hours Yeah I did mine at the dealer and it took around 2.5 - 3 hours. It was their firs PAL install, though I'm not sure why it took them so long specifically.

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07-31-2007, 11:54 AM

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	Greg Papendick Member Join Date: Jul 2007	Quote: Originally Posted by fagetaboutit Had mine installed Wednesday. They didn't trash the car at all. Everything works as advertised - EXCEPT - I can't toggle back to the XM band. The radio defaults to the IPOD XM1 band every time through the cycle. It's supposed to toggle to XM every other time through the full cycle (AM - FM - XM) (AM - FM - IPOD). Sounds like the dealer didn't do the programming for XM. If the PAL does not know XM is in the vehicle it will not switch to it every other time. You might want to take it back and have them check the programming steps. Time to install should be about 1 hour, maybe 1.5 hours for a technician that is familiar with the Soltice IP. It always takes longer for their first install of anything due to needing to read the instructions several times during the install. We were some what limited on the HMI due to the radio software (which could not be changed). The steering wheel controls only do what the corresponding buttons on the radio do so again, very limited. Everyone has a different idea on how these types of things should work so we won't be able to please everyone but I hope that you all at least get to a point where you like more about it than you dislike. Regards, Greg

07-31-2007, 01:11 PM

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	GXPRoadster Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Central Massachusetts	Greg - Thanks for the response. I have an appointment with the dealer and I'll bring along your comments. Other then the XM glitch (which I'm sure they will resolve), I am pleased with operation of the PAL. BTW - installation time was 1 hour and 15 minutes.

07-31-2007, 05:00 PM

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	Squirrel Boy Resident Tree Rat Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kathleen Georgia	Quote: Originally Posted by Greg Papendick We were some what limited on the HMI due to the radio software (which could not be changed). The steering wheel controls only do what the corresponding buttons on the radio do so again, very limited. Everyone has a different idea on how these types of things should work so we won't be able to please everyone but I hope that you all at least get to a point where you like more about it than you dislike. Regards, Greg I'm starting to get used to how it works. It's not as hard to navigate as I thought. I just have to learn NOT to move so fast through a playlist (I tend to get ahead of my radio ). I'll post some pictures of the PAL "working" in a day or two. Is there an ability for GM to "tweak" the softwear later on?(lets say someone figures that it would be better if this button did this rather that what it does now kinda thing...) __________________ http://www.myspace.com/squirrel_boy1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pontiac is car... Saturn has rethought it's image... The time has come for the enthusiasts... NASSOA Founding Member # 21 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Last edited by Squirrel Boy : 08-03-2007 at 06:33 AM. Reason: spelling

07-31-2007, 06:50 PM

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	laserone Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Missouri until I get the heck out of the midwest ;)	Quote: Originally Posted by Greg Papendick Sounds like the dealer didn't do the programming for XM. If the PAL does not know XM is in the vehicle it will not switch to it every other time. You might want to take it back and have them check the programming steps. Time to install should be about 1 hour, maybe 1.5 hours for a technician that is familiar with the Soltice IP. It always takes longer for their first install of anything due to needing to read the instructions several times during the install. We were some what limited on the HMI due to the radio software (which could not be changed). The steering wheel controls only do what the corresponding buttons on the radio do so again, very limited. Everyone has a different idea on how these types of things should work so we won't be able to please everyone but I hope that you all at least get to a point where you like more about it than you dislike. Regards, Greg I just realized that holding the seek key for a moment moves to the next station when on XM where as quickly punching it moves through presets - to me this is really annoying because on other pontiacs they actually seek to the next station. Can you explain the general thinking behind the difference on the solstice? I guess I would have had it the other way around but then again I'm not much for programming presets. I guess if you're really big into presets then maybe the current function seems like the ideal. __________________ 2007 SLY w/ Ebony Leather & Top Power \| Convenience \| Polished w/ Polished Caps \| LSD \| ABS \| A/C \| 6-Disc w/ MP3 \| Monsoon \| XM GMPP CAI \| GMPP Cat-Back Performance Exhaust \| Kappashield \| 2.55" Stubby \| Kappapouch \| GXP Alum Sill Plates \| GM All Weather Mats & Splash Guards My mother said to me, "If you are a soldier, you will become a general. If you are a monk, you will become the Pope." Instead, I was a painter, and became Picasso. ~Pablo Picasso

08-02-2007, 09:38 PM

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PAL--- pictures in use ---

	Squirrel Boy Resident Tree Rat Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kathleen Georgia	Okiedokie...I've figured out how use this thing. Here's a few pictures...with some notes <<<This is worth the price of admission aint it!! Click pictures for full size __________________ http://www.myspace.com/squirrel_boy1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pontiac is car... Saturn has rethought it's image... The time has come for the enthusiasts... NASSOA Founding Member # 21 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

08-02-2007, 10:03 PM

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	Squirrel Boy Resident Tree Rat Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kathleen Georgia	....I misspelled Forum in my playlist __________________ http://www.myspace.com/squirrel_boy1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pontiac is car... Saturn has rethought it's image... The time has come for the enthusiasts... NASSOA Founding Member # 21 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

08-02-2007, 10:33 PM

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	Cheers Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: SE VA	Quote: Originally Posted by Squirrel Boy ....I misspelled Forum in my playlist SO WHAT MANY THNAKS! Went to my dealer yesterday, no one had heard of it. Got a cal about half an hour later -- when did I want to order one .... Soon Thanks again for all the info __________________ Cheers GMH Mysterious GXP May you always be topless with a full tank NASSOA Founding Member #95 Team Solstice!! Folding@home Team

08-03-2007, 06:56 AM

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	Squirrel Boy Resident Tree Rat Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kathleen Georgia	Quote: ...step 20 (see attachment)in the instructions say you are to "remove" pin "M" and do a splice to a wire in the connector...well they did that correctly,...BUT.... they then replaced the pin to the connector(the instructions did not say"do not reinstall" so they reinstalled it) This drove the tech 2 programming tool go crazy.(took them forever to figure out the problem) So if you buy the PAL I would suggest that you make a note of this. here are 2 pictures to better explain what was wrong, If pin "M"s wire is still connected to the splice it needs to be cut (it is cut in my picture) If the wire is still connected the Tech 2 tool will not be able to program the PAL unit Attached Thumbnails __________________ http://www.myspace.com/squirrel_boy1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pontiac is car... Saturn has rethought it's image... The time has come for the enthusiasts... NASSOA Founding Member # 21 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

08-06-2007, 05:26 PM

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	JWo Member Join Date: Apr 2007	Quote: Originally Posted by Codeman I would suggest bringing the instructions with you, I believe it is steps 22-25 that they will need to do. Give them the sheet and tell them that you ONLY need them to complete those steps. If they are nice, they will only charge a few bucks if anything. Where do they jack in to do the Tech 2 programming? Back of the stereo unit? Asking because I'm curious if will need to have my dash apart when bringing it in to the dealer for the programming. __________________ 2007 Mysterious GXP, all the typical goods except On-Star, sport pedals, and spoiler.

08-06-2007, 05:41 PM

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	Squirrel Boy Resident Tree Rat Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Kathleen Georgia	Quote: Originally Posted by JWo Where do they jack in to do the Tech 2 programming? Back of the stereo unit? Asking because I'm curious if will need to have my dash apart when bringing it in to the dealer for the programming. Naa...... it's the port that is under the stearing wheel __________________ http://www.myspace.com/squirrel_boy1 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Pontiac is car... Saturn has rethought it's image... The time has come for the enthusiasts... NASSOA Founding Member # 21 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

08-06-2007, 07:32 PM

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	laserone Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Missouri until I get the heck out of the midwest ;)	Hey Squirrel Boy, do you know anyone with an iPhone? Apple's recent update is supposed to allow the iPhone to work with car systems that were previously giving errors such as PAL. It would be cool if someone had access to an iPhone that has been updated to v1.0.1 to see if this is the case w/ PAL. __________________ 2007 SLY w/ Ebony Leather & Top Power \| Convenience \| Polished w/ Polished Caps \| LSD \| ABS \| A/C \| 6-Disc w/ MP3 \| Monsoon \| XM GMPP CAI \| GMPP Cat-Back Performance Exhaust \| Kappashield \| 2.55" Stubby \| Kappapouch \| GXP Alum Sill Plates \| GM All Weather Mats & Splash Guards My mother said to me, "If you are a soldier, you will become a general. If you are a monk, you will become the Pope." Instead, I was a painter, and became Picasso. ~Pablo Picasso

08-06-2007, 07:39 PM

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	RichSol Founding Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: SoCal	Quote: Originally Posted by Squirrel Boy Naa...... it's the port that is under the stearing wheel Really? Will that mess with the new BSR tune on GXPs? I doubt they come with ipod programming. It's too new. __________________ '07 GXP - Loaded 3/19/2007 - 5 Speed auto Black - Charcoal Leather red stitching- LSD - Monsoon - MP3 - OnStar - XM - A/C - ABS - Cruise - 5 Speed Auto- Fog lamps - GXP Floormats - Chrome wheels - Sport pedals "Original Sol" 2006 2.4 - 5 speed manual Black - Sand/Steel leather - ABS - A/C - Power windows/locks - Magnaflow exhaust - GMPP CAI - Vector ECM tune - Delivered Oct '05 - Said goodbye Mar '07 - It was a hell of great ride!

08-06-2007, 07:55 PM

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Squirrel Boy

Resident Tree Rat

Join Date: Nov 2006

Location: Kathleen Georgia

(already planned to "demo it"

)My nephew has a i-Phone and is comming to town toward the end of this week. I'll let you know(

wonder how you answer it, will it do a speaker phone thing....

)

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