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Old 03-30-2010, 10:58 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Fog lights in the grill?

==Thought I posted this last night, forgive me if it's a repost.==

Hey guys,
I've got a new pair of grills coming and was thinking of moving the fog lights either behind or set into the grill. I was imagining leaving the current fog lights bulb-less using wire clamps for the new ones so that the whole deal would be reversible. I know there's the impact foam behind the grill-- how hard would it be to cut away at that if I needed more room for the (presumably) warm lights? Has anyone done anything like this? I was also considering painting the grill black, that would let the lights be more visible. Not sure if that's what I'm after.

What do you guys think aesthetically? Practically?

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Old 03-30-2010, 11:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I think it'd look pretty cool! But why remove the functionality from the OEM foglights? You're talking about modifying the wiring anyways.
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I was also considering painting the grill black, that would let the lights be more visible.
Here it is with black grills.

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Old 03-30-2010, 11:34 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I have driving lights behind the grill. They are smaller than the fog light/turn signals. They are 100 watts each, but only on while moving, so there is plenty of air movement around them to keep them cool. They are hanging from the duct work behind the front cross member.I thought of cutting the grills and putting in a trim ring, but decided that was beyond my skills.



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Crappa, why are they so close together? I would have mounted them further apart. I had this on my last car and was driving down the road one night with all of them on and a cop pulled me over and said "I had too many lights on" He said legally for road/street use I can only have 4 on at once. So I'm just giving you the warning he gave me. I think for off road/race use it fine. And if you are on the Highway/Interstate with no supporting street lights, then its okay too.
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Old 03-30-2010, 01:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Doesnt that block airflow to your intercooler? OOPS sorry

I had my fog / turn lights painted and put in the brightest headlights I thought I could get away with.
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If his are "driving lights", then I assume that they would be used in a high-beam situation. In other words, there shouldn't be conditions that you would run both fog lights AND driving lights at the same time.
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Old 03-30-2010, 04:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
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For me it's mostly be for looks. If there's enough room, I think I'll probably install the lights behind the grill first and once I see it in person I can decide if I want to cut holes. It shouldn't be too difficult to trace the shape and then use a fine hacksaw or jeweler's saw to cut the posts one by one.

Do you guys know if a good place to look for the lights? I don't want them too bright since bright lights in well-lit LA are just annoying and distracting to other drivers.

I'll have to wait and see how I like the look of all those lights on the front. The lights are sort of rally-inspired but I don't want to look silly:
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Sacrificing possible cooling for the sake of looks when you already have functional fog lights just doesn't make any sense to me. Very odd choice. Doesn't look good, looks odd. You asked.
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I've always liked the style of the driving lights in the grill, like on Mustangs. I actually bought a set of Hella driving lights to try it myself. I just couldn't figure out a way that was asthetically pleasing, and of course there could be a question about cooling. Anyway I never tried it. One thing I would like to say is that if you like it and you want to do it don't worry about anyone elses opinion ( especially if it's negative). It's your car have fun and if you want to put dual-chrome plated curb feelers on it... go for it!
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Seems like overkill to me. Too much of a good thing can be bad.
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Old 03-30-2010, 06:50 PM   #12 (permalink)
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@Smokescreen

I agree that too much of *anything* is bad. I found this pair of grills for $30 on ebay and I'm keeping the originals as-is. That's the only way I'm comfortable with taking a risk like this, it's easy to scar up a pretty face.

When I get it put together, I'll upload pictures. Anyone have recommendations on which lights to use? I'd like to use something around 5" in diameter, preferably shallow so they fit more easily.
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Crappa, why are they so close together? I would have mounted them further apart. I had this on my last car and was driving down the road one night with all of them on and a cop pulled me over and said "I had too many lights on" He said legally for road/street use I can only have 4 on at once. So I'm just giving you the warning he gave me. I think for off road/race use it fine. And if you are on the Highway/Interstate with no supporting street lights, then its okay too.
There are vertical supports in the tunnel. I could maybe get them out another 1/2 inch or so, but I didn't want to cut up the supports. I put them in for country driving. A lot of deer out west of us where I like to drive.

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I thought on cutting out the grills and having the lights pushed right up into the grill, and using a short piece of PVC pipe glued into the grill for a trim ring. But I like having them sleeping back in there.
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