Sorry I dunno how I missed your post. THis one is @16.5psi. you can expect about 20hp less if your only going to run 14. but you prolly could do so on 87. just watch for KR on your dash hawk if you try it.
Tial has a really nice looking reciirculator valve called the alpha Q. IM goign to find out more on price and inplementation but It will be an option. I like how they look.
Like a billet Egg. And I love eggs, they're delicious.
I think I'll wait a bit. Those numbers are impressive, but its not much more then what a current 2007 wester tune+exhaust is putting to the wheels with the stock turbo
I'd like to see this work on 91 octane at 20psi all the way to 7000
Greg
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Tial has a really nice looking reciirculator valve called the alpha Q. IM goign to find out more on price and inplementation but It will be an option. I like how they look.
Like a billet Egg. And I love eggs, they're delicious.
I want to make 400whp. Currently I have an all stock Sky Redline and I'd rather skip the bolt ons and go straight to the big stuff. What changes will I have to make to reach my goal? Intercooler? IC pipes? I will already have an exhaust. Will the stock valvetrain be good up to 7500rpms? What power does the fuel system start running out of fuel? If so, is there any injectors available? (I don't think there is)
it will take about 27psi to get it. Im still using the stock IC & exhaust. I havent reached the limits of the stock pump. The injectors under the hardest loading Ive put the car under only go up to 50 or so % duty cycle. No injectors are yet availible or nessicary.
Is it possible for me to put a deposit down and wait until HPTuners releases the necessary changes to tune the car so you can include a tune with the kit?
It could be a really really long time, I dont wanna bank anything on them. Lyndon Wester is far more reliable. Im talking with him to possibly have him handle the tuning end of things. It will cost a bit more, but he's a very talented man and IM sure you'll end up with a nicer end product-much sooner.
However my wife DD's the GXP 50 miles a day and doest spare the whip ( I love her so! lol) it gives her no problems without the wester's upgrade until you start rockin 20+psi. then it simply boost timers out until the next restart. Then the same routine: 50 sec cumulative or 4 sec continous.
I would want a blow thru maf, can you make kits with those? And what kind of maf are you using?
I'm re-using the factory MAF element, placed in the driver's side charge pipe. Yes, I will be happy to provide your kit with a blow thru. It will obviously be extra since I will have to provide the charge pipe for the drviers side. Would you like the new Tial Q with it?
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I think I'll wait a bit. Those numbers are impressive, but its not much more then what a current 2007 wester tune+exhaust is putting to the wheels with the stock turbo
I'd like to see this work on 91 octane at 20psi all the way to 7000
Greg
At only 16.5psi the stock turbo makes that power eh?
here is stock psi with the GT30R no torque delete. But your right, follow that line to 7500rpm. Or add another 3psi. since it;s what I run on a day to day basis.
Nice So what is holding back 20psi on 91octane? tuning?
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At only 16.5psi the stock turbo makes that power eh?
here is stock psi with the GT30R no torque delete. But your right, follow that line to 7500rpm. Or add another 3psi. since it;s what I run on a day to day basis.
He's workin on it my man. He's workin on it. As soon as it's ready he'll have the Gt30R file ready for you. Calibration should port over with no problems.
The tune will no longer be provided from free thru HPT.
Wester's Garage has agreed to exclusively handle the electronic end of all my stage packages. The kits will come with a pre-labeled box to ship him your PCM.
You tell him what package you have and he'll load the proper flash.
If you've already got his hot tune you can send it back to get a reflash for your new turbosetup.
He's sending me back a really really hot flash tonight that will allow me to rev this motor straight to the F'n moon with 23psi. Im going to make her cry unkle!
It's gonna break 400whp I just know it.
I have elected to go this route since
1) Lyndon Wester is a very talented tuner/software engineer- it will help make a better end product for everyone to enjoy with only a modest cost increase
2)He's 20x more relaible than HPT. and will likely have the rest of the LNF family opend up long before anyone else. 08's included.
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a partnership with Lyndon Wester, what a novel idea wonder who thought of that idea, oh wait I know....
Way to go BTF, glad things worked out! Now I really want this puppy!
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How can running the same boost make more HP? Cooler intake temp?
I understand that PSI is a function of restriction on the intake path. Flow is pressure X volume. Since the intake restriction is unchanged, I would assume flow is the same at the same PSI. What am I missing here?
How can running the same boost make more HP? Cooler intake temp?
I understand that PSI is a function of restriction on the intake path. Flow is pressure X volume. Since the intake restriction is unchanged, I would assume flow is the same at the same PSI. What am I missing here?
Mass flow.
A larger turbine wheel and compressor combo will make the same intake pressure at a reduced turbine inlet pressure.
Say were @ top dead center and mid to high rpm with 2 different combo's: stock vs Gt30R
stock with it's smaller turbine and compressor wheel is working alot harder to make the required intake psi at the rpm we're at. The turbine inlet pressure is 2 or even 3-1 over intake pressure. so there is say 60psi of hot, inert products left in the clearence volume(50cc's).
Exhaust valve shuts pistons' on it's way down intake opens, a little puff of inert goes up the intake runner, then pressure overcomes (20psi intake) and fill the cyl.
GT30R: larger turbine & housing, higher flowing compressor is only at 65% turbine speed and travels thru it's highes effeciency island during this rpm range. It's turbine to intake ratio is say 1.5-1 or the holy grail :1-1 with intake pressure.
Same situation, only there is just 30psi of inert in the clearence volume, and very little reversion up the intake runner.
can you see how motor #2 moves much more mass flow at the same intake Psi?
Dont get me wrong, the stocker makes killer low end torque, where it;s in it's max effiecency and the TIP/Mip is favorable.
You'll give up alot over the stocker below 3K.
But thanks to Lyndon, RPM's back in the game and you'll enjoy a 3500-7500 pull like never before from the GT30.
Also, clutches are rated in Ft/lbs of torque. so are transmissions. By making similar, if not modestly more torque but hold it out to redline the mathamatical benefits of the HP equation take over ((torque x RPM) /5252) =fastercar without breaking driveline stuff. Just more "spirited" to drive.
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