ok i got a guy that will make a custom header going into the turbo for the 2.0 liter. i will have prices next week based on quantity but its not going ot be a cheap item. this guy will basically make anything there is interest in so im open to suggestions for what u guys would like made.this guy is no joke he runs a car in 24 hours at lemans care in 3rd last time and i believe he's won overall at several events. most of his work is done on porsche's but he is very familar with setups like ours. im going ot be going there again next week so if u guys woud kindly let me know what specific items you are interested in i will be happy to ask him
Just saying he will make a manifold isn't enough. You're going to have to test fit for specific turbos, down pipe, etc. I say make a tubular manifold that will allow a T3 flanged turbo bolt up, will allow us to fit a GT3x framed turbo under the good with a v-band flanged downpipe w/o a cat. :O)
Just saying he will make a manifold isn't enough. You're going to have to test fit for specific turbos, down pipe, etc. I say make a tubular manifold that will allow a T3 flanged turbo bolt up, will allow us to fit a GT3x framed turbo under the good with a v-band flanged downpipe w/o a cat. :O)
well if thats something people are interested in he will do it.. we talked for about an hour today and we dicussed changing the turbo out and making a replacement kit. again, anything like this would require a great deal of interest to go ahead with.
oh and we took it a step further, he suggested splitting the exhaust manifold 2 and 2 one turbo for each, then x pipe, and now theres a true dual exhaust as well... would make a ton of power
Honestly I'm all for enhanced Volumetric Effiency, simply by producing a good strong second exhaust pulse resonated equal length header. ( 1st pulse if possible, but usually makes for 35 inch long header primaries )
BUT, if it doesn't fit a t3 or t4 flanged turbo with T4 compressor then its a waste.
The motor does not require any tuned produce to already absorb more boost than the turbo can even create.
In otherwords, We might make a bit more power, but were just gonna be running the turbo farther off the compressor map with a nice header and stock turbo.
well if thats something people are interested in he will do it.. we talked for about an hour today and we dicussed changing the turbo out and making a replacement kit. again, anything like this would require a great deal of interest to go ahead with.
oh and we took it a step further, he suggested splitting the exhaust manifold 2 and 2 one turbo for each, then x pipe, and now theres a true dual exhaust as well... would make a ton of power
Well, there will be no interest until there's a prototype made with pictures, dyno numbers, and cost estimates. Just some advice from someone who makes and sells parts.
I would not suggest doing a twin setup because a) limited room b) cost c) true dual is nice on an n/a car, but on a turbo car it really isn't as important.
Tubular manifold. 1.5/8 tubular thick gauged 304/321/inconel
1/2" thick machine cut flanges
tig welded
high flow collector flanged for a T3-sized turbo exhaust inlet
flanged for a 48mm deltagate-style wastegate, or optional 50mm v-band clamp gate.
In addition, a 3" downpipe flanged with a v-band clamp fitting or optional T31 flange (requires 2.5" -> 3" tapered pipe).
Catless or race-cat variants
bung for factory wideband and a secondary bung for aftermarket wideband.
rear-o2 tricker bung for cat-less variants
flanged for factory/aftermarket cat-back exhaust system.
Shoot, I'll see what my fabricator says about this... he's not the cheapest welder either.
Truly I just want more power with out a CEL being kicked out. I will let you guys decide how to do that. I just want to be able to beat a Mini Cooper R and a Mustang GT off the line and across the line. As long as it does not cost as much as the car we are all good.
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Put some tape on the light and you'll never see it, a cel that doesnt affect performance is just a small annoyance.
I wouldnt bother upgrading the exhaust manifold just yet, the ecm is already shutting down power with a cat/exhaust/intake as Jack B stated.
i will talk with john when i go next week and see what he suggests. personally i just want the car to run a 12.9 and id be happy. if the ecm seems ot be that much of a pain then a programmer with a proper tune seems to be the most logical thing to and would open up more options... i know a couple of guys in that department so i will talk with them as well... jeez all his turbo stuff if too complicated it was so much easier with my ls1 lol.
I logged timing today and our ecu can certainly benefit from a tune. I saw 11deg timing adv at peak boost. that's pretty sad. I'd expect something like 15; As someone who put a bunch of money into R&D for Subaru LGT, I can say it's gonna take money to be a pioneer on those manifolds... if your buddy thinks he could make some extra money off of them, it may be in his interest to front the costs on a prototype... maybe you would split costs with him... but if you do manage to start that project, try and see if you can move the turbo a little forward to have a more linear direction for the down pipe; the s-shaped downpipe is really dumb.
ls1... try turbo charging one... you will lose all your hair.
hahah u see i dont need ot turbocharge an ls1 i can make 600 without blinking out of one running pump gas... im great with those kind of engines, but my knowledge of turbo setups is extremely limited lol. well MTS i will literally print out what u posted earlier and bring it with me. im sure he will come out with something... i wasnt particularly thinking of changing the turbo on my own car but if he is able to make something for those who do not wish to and those who do im sure more people would be interested. id be willing to front the costs on the setup with a stock turbo with the aforementioned modification of altering the linear direction of the downpipe and a full exhaust with hi flow cat. once it is complete anyone hwo is interested can check it out and go from there... now someone get us a good tune program. im going to try as well but no guarantees on that one
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