Tial on the Wastegate. The prototype has a 38mm, but a v-band 44 is not out of the question. I hate gaskets.
If I do get another BOV it will likely be the Tial50mm If it's good enough for factory porsche racing efforts it's good enough for me.
I originally grabbed the Godzilla off my vette because I was going to recirculate.
Now that were blowing thru the maf it's no longer a must.
Its supposed to warm up and rain for a little bit this upcoming week. Maybe enough to get the salt off the road for some testing. Going to drop by monroe and see if they have the swedging dies for a ball socket. Once that's done I can fire it up.
unfortunately they no longer have the adjustables.
that's because they were never intended to be adjustable in the first place. they removed the bolt because people kept damaging their bov by messing with the factory setting.
okay, this is rice
this is not--this is a performance tool that can sound as plain as you like with a different insert
if i had to point my finger at a bov that was close to rice it would be the turboxs Type H-RFL (which stands for Real Friggen Loud)
Man just think of the magazines you could fit on a bookshelf like that!
If I had my choice I woul have a BOV that sounded like Curly for the 3 stooges.
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lol, when I was in my early 20's me and my buddy would drive around bar to bar and give people Ricecop tickets. Bookshelf wing was a ticketable offence.
HKS does not make rice. They are a well respected tuner in Japan that makes parts for the fastest street cars over there [Supra, RX7, Skyline, Silvia, 300ZX, 350Z, Evo, STi, ect].
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Guys, I've ran HKS' on my builds. I've got on on my supra.
But people with stock 1.8ts, and 6 psi civics with primer run em too when a $9 Junkyard DSM recirc valve would do the job better than the HKS.
When people buy stuff for the sound. And those things go on ****ty cars. Then the product could be used for as a ricey modification. Period.
Kindof how book shelf wings are useful on some grip events, people throw em on their car. Rice.
Adding 2 extra sets of fogs on a stock impreza 2.5 NA because you saw it on a rally Rex = ricey.
I'm not saying the SSQV IS ricey, just that it can have that ricey sound to others. So if you cared what others thought about it, you might want to stay away from it.
I can point you to 100 other message forums that would argue with you all, and tell you the HKS is garbage and ricey.
I don't think it is, thats why I suggested it, it doesn't pull in unmetered air, its a good product.
Although your wrong, the adjustable ones WERE meant to be adjustable, thats why somone spent the EXTRA time into R&Ding the fuction to make it functional. Yes people loosened it too much causing the assembly to fall apart, or tighten it too much and stripping it, so for ease of manufacturing, and warranty I can see them eliminating the adjustability.
I actually liked the adjustability as the SSQV can actually induce a brief second of compressor surge in some low, and some high boost situations.
I know we had that happen on our Turbo GTP before we adjusted it, and I have it for a split second on my Supra until it was adjusted.
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Although your wrong, the adjustable ones WERE meant to be adjustable, thats why somone spent the EXTRA time into R&Ding the fuction to make it functional. Yes people loosened it too much causing the assembly to fall apart, or tighten it too much and stripping it, so for ease of manufacturing, and warranty I can see them eliminating the adjustability.
According to HKS themselves the screw was there for factory calibration and was not intended for any end user changes. They also stated that even a very minor change to the screw could quickly cause damage the diaphragm. Why would they do that? Beyond what HKS told me, I don’t know—why would the stock wastegate rod have threads when the service manual states it’s non adjustable? There are countless products that have a certain level of adjustability and only designed that way for factory fine-tuning to compensate for various things like material changes, manufacturing tolerances, optimum performance, etc. The jets on my grill are “adjustable” and were probably once used going through quality control before leaving the factory.
Anyways, not trying to argue with anyone and continuing to talk about other unjustified generalizations made would take this too far off topic, so lets just drop it. How about that weather we’ve been having huh!!
Gee man, My HKS adjustable came with a HKS manual on how to adjust it, I don't know what to tell you. They specified that it would need to be adjusted to prevent surge at certain boost levels. Well they didn't call it surge they called it "response" but I can read b/t the lines.
Edited for weather response.
Good.
j/k Yeah its been pretty warm here, but I still get out after dark so its nearly useless for me, I wanna work on the supra but... I'm not gonna do it in the dark.
Very cool that your pushing forward with this, even without optimal tuning potential. I wonder what the deal is with HPTuners. Is it lack of resources (last I checked, they were looking for a couple people to help decode ECUs) or are they stumped with this ECU? BSR seems to have hacked it.
Anyway, my main question: Exactly what is the positioning of MAF & BOV in relation to each other on the cold side of the intercooler you're thinking of? MAF closer to the intake than the BOV or BOV closer to the intake than the MAF?
I'd think that if the BOV was closer to the intake than the MAF, high pressure air flowing towards the open BOV at closed throttle would flow by the MAF and out into the atmosphere, fooling the ECU into seeing more air than the motor is gonna get.
If the MAF was the unit closer to the intake, then it'd probably be fine, seeing very little air flow by, out the BOV.
Damn, this car needs more power. I love it and all, but it sure feels weak after getting used to it. I wouldn't be surprised if our new 6.6L Duramax diesel truck is faster. HP Tuners does (mostly) work on that ECU. A simple exhaust and ECU reflash = 385 HP, 716 ft-lbs. Sigh.
I can also get my speed fix from the STi I'm completing with a built motor and GT35R. But I want all my cars to be fast.
The BOV definitly has to be before the MAF sensor. Im thinking the maf will go right next to the 2nd Iat/intake pressure sensor. With the BOV in the nose of the car. Maybe in the intercooler endtank or something.
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