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Old 07-17-2008, 06:30 PM
  
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I've used CP-E products on my old Mazda6s...while they are expensive, they are very well made and work as advertised. I had their MAFci system, valve body upgrade, battery tray, engine mount, and headers. All were awesome.

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Old 07-17-2008, 08:58 PM
  
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Spiky where is Bellmore, NY?
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We don't want tunes though, we want tunability :P

I will try vishner though. The bimmers use a similar ECU/M if I'm not mistaken.

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Spiky where is Bellmore, NY?

It's on Long Island. It is about 30 minutes from Queens.
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If RPI had the code on our ECM crack, then there's has to be other Software Eng. that can do the same.
The question is how much. Also once is done then sell it like HP tuners to be able to recoop the investment.
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You could always directly access the chip and bypass some of the security using a BDM device. I suspect this is what Eloy is using to tune his cars. This allows you to essentially download the raw .bin file from the ECM. Then you can edit it with a hex editor, or WinOls (a free download). The hard part is looking at the large amount of hex data and knowing what is what. That is what HPT has done, they found the obvious tables and gave you software to edit them. The other tables are not so obvious, are what is taking to time to crack. It is also likely that Westers has found the tables and changes them in a hex editor, and saves the .bin file. That is why he can edit things that are not in HPT.

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Here you can see where the software identified a potential table within the hex data, and how to edit it:

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I'm a computer guy, so I understand much of what is going on here. If I had before and after files to compare a BSR or Westers tune and a stock tune, I could likely identify the tables that they have figured out and replicate it. I'm not going to purchase HPT until they offer more for my car. There is a popular tuner not far from me. I could get him to give me a read of before and after my BSR, then I could start to tinker a little with the code. The setup from EVC is expensive for me just to tinker, but if you guys are really committed to paying for results maybe we could pool our resources and work on our own tune.

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I agree except for one little part. here, I fixed it...
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You could always directly access the chip and bypass some of the security using a BDM device. I suspect this is what Eloy is using to tune his cars. This allows you to essentially download the raw .bin file from the ECM. Then you can edit it with a hex editor, or WinOls (a free download). The hard part is looking at the large amount of hex data and knowing what is what. That is what HPT has done, they found the obvious tables and gave you software to edit them. The other tables are not so obvious, and thats why they have put it off altogether for more than a year. It is also likely that Westers has found the tables and changes them in a hex editor, and saves the .bin file. That is why he can edit things that are not in HPT.

BDM100 module

Here you can see where the software identified a potential table within the hex data, and how to edit it:

Software WinOLS

I'm a computer guy, so I understand much of what is going on here. If I had before and after files to compare a BSR or Westers tune and a stock tune, I could likely identify the tables that they have figured out and replicate it. I'm not going to purchase HPT until they offer more for my car. There is a popular tuner not far from me. I could get him to give me a read of before and after my BSR, then I could start to tinker a little with the code. The setup from EVC is expensive for me just to tinker, but if you guys are really committed to paying for results maybe we could pool our resources and work on our own tune.

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You could always directly access the chip and bypass some of the security using a BDM device. I suspect this is what Eloy is using to tune his cars. This allows you to essentially download the raw .bin file from the ECM. Then you can edit it with a hex editor, or WinOls (a free download). The hard part is looking at the large amount of hex data and knowing what is what. That is what HPT has done, they found the obvious tables and gave you software to edit them. The other tables are not so obvious, are what is taking to time to crack. It is also likely that Westers has found the tables and changes them in a hex editor, and saves the .bin file. That is why he can edit things that are not in HPT.

BDM100 module

Here you can see where the software identified a potential table within the hex data, and how to edit it:

Software WinOLS

I'm a computer guy, so I understand much of what is going on here. If I had before and after files to compare a BSR or Westers tune and a stock tune, I could likely identify the tables that they have figured out and replicate it. I'm not going to purchase HPT until they offer more for my car. There is a popular tuner not far from me. I could get him to give me a read of before and after my BSR, then I could start to tinker a little with the code. The setup from EVC is expensive for me just to tinker, but if you guys are really committed to paying for results maybe we could pool our resources and work on our own tune.

Kendall

Sounds good, only issue is AFAIK the BSR is a completely custom OS. Working on it and the factory/westers may be very different.

How much "pooling" are we talking about?
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on the hpt forum, synappse just posted a high-boost dyno run using their "new" hpt software. If HPT has been holding out on us........ GRRRRRRR
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Might just have to re-download tongiht and check just to make sure ...
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They say on Page 4 of the cobalt forum it is software ver 2.22. What do you have?
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2.22. Same as everyone. I can't imagine how they got those #'s otherwise. Doesnt say MBC or anything.
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I wonder if they have the beta and was told to shut up by HPTuners & post the 2.22
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Hmmm that could be possible...but why hold out on us?
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