clutch upgrade options for 2.4

[zzzybil]

my tach revved for no apparent reason (@ aprox 90mph cruisin ) a coupla times....
. stopped looked and couldn't find any issues ? .... wouldn't repeat at slower speeds
we were enroute to autox figured i'd lose my clutch that day- but didn't have any issues

had a blast and drove home - albeit slower plenty traffic - so ?? it never repeated and the clutch seemed fine all day - 2 drivers @ autox - no issues there

i know with the other mods - i need a better clutch....and the revving thing ? prolly a clue and time to give it some thought- before i'm roadside in some swamp "s.o.l."

looking for my options and opinions -
what clutch upgrade do i want ??????? whatever info that might help in this decision ...what are my choices ?? - pros and cons- opinions ...experiences - whatever i don't have a clue how to compare or what i need -

i don't know squat bout clutches - i remember carl upgraded once and wasn't satisfied ( can't remember which one he didn't like- vibrated or some issue ? )i think ddm solved that with a new clutch they were testing

so what do i need to know about this - how do i decide-

which clutch upgrades do yall have ? take me to "clutch school "

[compression]

I have a custom made BULLY stage 4 clutch that is a little bit stiffer then our oem ones. Didn't really cost me an arm and a leg. Clutch is good for 600whp.

[zzzybil]

stiff enuff to be a PIA or what ?...

.. would "overkill" make it more durable ?? any advantage ?

...sounds like more clutch than i need.....but like i said - ..

.is there any benefit to having a clutch rated for twice the hp yuh actually have ?

.....i was thinkin off the shelf options ? not custom...lol...
.how much dude- $$$$ arms and legs are relative -

i need soooooo much stuff....i wn't skimp
but i still really really want some r comps - for autox.....need another set of wheels.....

i'll really be scrapin if i make that run to georgia - i mean ramen noodle and generic smokes...lol...
- disappointed if he parts it out.....??? still thats a big stretch..... worth scroungin for if everything else is still intact ? i dunno ?..make it a track car for autox ??..totally worth it !.i got too many drivers for mine,,,lol ..a spare to tear up on the weekend......ohhhh yeah !!....i'm up for that

. it'd be nice to have....you still serious bout that ?...

... i know in my heart the clutch is on its way out - better get an idea of how much thats going to cost......figure out now what i'm going to go with ???
thanks for the input...

[Silver_Ghost]

Have you thought about a nice light weight flywheel to go along with replacing that clutch? How much money are you wanting to spend? Check out these parts at DDM:
DDMWorks Solstice Products
They have everything you can think of with good descriptions of what each clutch can do and benefit from.

[ELJonesy]

I went with a spec stage 3 (6 puck, sprung hub) and a fidanza aluminum flywheel.


is your sol your daily driver? my DD has a spec stage 2+ and a spec aluminum flywheel, it gets old after a while in traffic.

[Silver_Ghost]

Originally Posted by ELJonesy is your sol your daily driver?

Yes, but I moved very close to my job, so I don't get stuck in traffic.

[zzzybil]

Originally Posted by Silver_Ghost Have you thought about a nice light weight flywheel to go along with replacing that clutch? How much money are you wanting to spend? Check out these parts at DDM: DDMWorks Solstice Products They have everything you can think of with good descriptions of what each clutch can do and benefit from.

as far as how much i wanna spend ??....... its NOT like money is no object but i won't skimp - i just save till i can get what i need...

.... if a new flywheel makes a better set up - i need to know that - lighter, ceramic, ??? this is all greek
everything so far has been the best components - least ways i think so.....
i'm not sure where to learn about clutches and fly wheels ?...
...i need a clutch "101" class...... once i know a lil more - ??.....i can make a better decision - thats where you guys come in..lol..

[Silver_Ghost]

Originally Posted by zzzybil as far as how much i wanna spend ??....... its NOT like money is no object but i won't skimp - i just save till i can get what i need... .... if a new flywheel makes a better set up - i need to know that - lighter, ceramic, ??? this is all greek everything so far has been the best components - least ways i think so..... i'm not sure where to learn about clutches and fly wheels ?... ...i need a clutch "101" class...... once i know a lil more - ??.....i can make a better decision - thats where you guys come in..lol..

Well it really all depends on how much HP your going to be putting down and how your driving your car. I good aluminum flywheel is what you want to transfer all that power faster resulting in a car with better pick up. As far as ceramic, I don't think any flywheels out there use ceramic, just some of the clutches sold and brakes being used today use ceramic parts. If I were you, I would just call the guys up at DDM Works and explain that you use your car as a daily driver and also for auto cross racing and see what they would recomend. Sales and Tech Support (864) 907-6004 They are very helpfull.

[zzzybil]

Originally Posted by Silver_Ghost Well it really all depends on how much HP your going to be putting down and how your driving your car. I good aluminum flywheel is what you want to transfer all that power faster resulting in a car with better pick up. As far as ceramic, I don't think any flywheels out there use ceramic, just some of the clutches sold and brakes being used today use ceramic parts. If I were you, I would just call the guys up at DDM Works and explain that you use your car as a daily driver and also for auto cross racing and see what they would recomend. Sales and Tech Support (864) 907-6004 They are very helpfull.

ceramic is listed as a ddm choice - from their page tho i'm assuming thats the plate not the flywheel -

of course i'll get randy and daves input...... they certainly don't need an invitation to "critique " the choices they offer for what i want and need ?? ( i keep thinking they'll post up and tell me the pros/cons and their choice of which one ?? to pick ) in all likely - i'll go with one of theirs - i'd like to know my options and what makes which one - the one they suggest ??

dave is pretty good at explaining complex /nutshellin ......and yeah they are both smart guys

i assume there are some other knowledgeable folks here and people who have already experienced clutch swaps - that have some "pearls of wisdom , insight or hindsight " valuable to my decision makin

far as driving - i'm lovin autox - playing with the whole family... and 'multible drivers - so i figure its foolish to wimp on this... and i need a lil education b4 i pick

hp - ??? yeahhhhhhhhh
i want the option to upgrade from 42 to 60# injectors ...whether i get an engine to "build"........ ?? keeping that option open too... ( maybe going to atlanta for that ??...too soon to tell.... we'll see ?? )

..prolly won't upgrade the injectors anymore unless i do some internals too....

i'd want a clutch that ... can holdup to the autox'n
... take that abuse ......
..lol....+ take some more upgrades ......if and when that happens

in other words i don't wanna do this twice anytime soon !.... i could live with stiff if it were the "best" option for beating on the car - tuff /durable.....but if i really don't want/need stiff - if there is a better option -
i wanna know if stiff is a necessary evil -- its not my DD...... nuttin wrong with my knees ... i just wanna make the best choice

-- i'm having too much fun playing - autox is a sooooo much fun - and something the kids enjoy more than me......ok maybe i enjoy them laughing all day and wanting to be playing together with me - more than i can describe.........its a win win for me.........

i'll never drive like dave...lol... but he opened my eyes to skill - besides for fun - i see the autox'n as an opportunity to be a better driver ...good training for me and the kids - i need a clutch that will take that kinda punishment

[WintR]

Have you posted to the autox section? There are guys that post there that I don't often see in this section, if at all.

[doglas]

i'm patiently waiting for your answer as well, i also auto-x with my kids, & my clutch is going, i want a better one, but this vibration thing, makes me nervous, as well as the clutch has to be drivable for the wife.

[carlintexas]

I went with a spec stage 3 (6 puck, sprung hub) and a Fdanza aluminum flywheel.

I HAD a Spec stage 2+ with Fidanza flywheel and the thing buzzed like crazy at around 3k rpms. Called Spec & was told all units are balanced before they are shipped and for me to 'get used to it' (the harmonic vibration).

Pulled the Spec & went back to the stock clutch / flywheel and all is now quiet - no buzz - no vibration. Around $900 down the old drain - not a good experience for me and I still need a stronger clutch - Bully, Clutchmaster, whatever...........

[zzzybil]

Originally Posted by compression I have a custom made BULLY stage 4 clutch that is a little bit stiffer then our oem ones. Didn't really cost me an arm and a leg. Clutch is good for 600whp.

some details dude !! plz

[JT72]

Over here in Cali there is a guy that has a small business that builds custom clutches using your existing pressure plate. Mainly just switching the teeth that controls the clutch pressure with some new ones with the option of stiff or factory feel or you can leave it at stock pressure while also offering you sprung or unsprung, 4,6, or solid disk.

I customized mine by having a factory feel pressure plate with an unsprung 6 puck that launches as soon as the disc makes contact with flywheel. It's something you have to get use to or you'll always stall. It's tha Fidanza that causes the vibration if not mistakening. I can let u know definitely when i get my car back. I'm going back to factory fly wheel with custom clutch.

[Randy@ddmworks]

Originally Posted by zzzybil some details dude !! plz

Pam,

Call Dave, we have a new clutch that has near factory feel and stands up to our stage 3 and more..supposed to be good to 500hp/trq