clutch upgrade options for 2.4 - Page 2

1KULSOL · 10-28-2009, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Randy@ddmworks

Pam,

Call Dave, we have a new clutch that has near factory feel and stands up to our stage 3 and more..supposed to be good to 500hp/trq

I can tell you the "new" clutch is good ... I had the Exedy in there for a short time .... really took a lot to depress the pedal ... really bad in traffic ... the new one is about like stock ... I love it.

zzzybil · 10-29-2009, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JT72

Over here in Cali there is a guy that has a small business that builds custom clutches using your existing pressure plate. Mainly just switching the teeth that controls the clutch pressure with some new ones with the option of stiff or factory feel or you can leave it at stock pressure while also offering you sprung or unsprung, 4,6, or solid disk.

I customized mine by having a factory feel pressure plate with an unsprung 6 puck that launches as soon as the disc makes contact with flywheel. It's something you have to get use to or you'll always stall. It's tha Fidanza that causes the vibration if not mistakening. I can let u know definitely when i get my car back. I'm going back to factory fly wheel with custom clutch.

yeahyeah......kepp me posted.... i don't have a grasp on sprung unsprung 4-6 solid etc.......need more input for sure

zzzybil · 10-29-2009, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by carlintexas

I HAD a Spec stage 2+ with Fidanza flywheel and the thing buzzed like crazy at around 3k rpms. Called Spec & was told all units are balanced before they are shipped and for me to 'get used to it' (the harmonic vibration).

Pulled the Spec & went back to the stock clutch / flywheel and all is now quiet - no buzz - no vibration. Around $900 down the old drain - not a good experience for me and I still need a stronger clutch - Bully, Clutchmaster, whatever...........

... knowing what i don't want is valuable info....$900 worth.. thanks carl !! .....

ELJonesy · 10-29-2009, 05:10 PM

well just bolting on a flywheel especially a cheaper one like the fidanza I'd expect some vibration, mine is getting balanced with the rotating assembly, no vibration for me....

bterbeek · 10-29-2009, 06:51 PM

I have the spec fly and clutch. no issues, but as one would expect it is some extra work for the leg.

zzzybil · 10-29-2009, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ELJonesy

well just bolting on a flywheel especially a cheaper one like the fidanza I'd expect some vibration, mine is getting balanced with the rotating assembly, no vibration for me....

i appreciate what you're saying but need a lil more info for it to be useful....
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which flywheel / whose did you go with - which clutch - who does the balancing with the rotating assembly.......same place ? give me a hint..lol...

i KNOW carl didn't go cheap... least i don't see $900 as cheap ? ...when you don't know ? guessing what you need - or what to get ?? its easy to make a poor choice.......

i keep thinkin dave will take some time to describe the differences in the clutches he offers and what makes the "special one " special.......if you read the descriptions - pretty generic - almost say the same things

you sound like you know more than me and carl - expand a lil bit

my mechanic said " we don't want a spec " but assumed i'd know the best options.......or get "the options" to pick from.......
he'll know how to install it but has no clue or inclination to figure it out for me.......... i usually get pointed in the right direction here......lots of knowledge and experience...... so far i haven't learned a thing cept fidanza sucks....... thats good to know
but ????????????
still waitin on the high tech definitive experienced opinions...some clutch talk !
..options....more........

i'm not the only one interested ... guess i need to hit some other forums too ?

ELJonesy · 10-30-2009, 04:58 PM

Spec seems to be hit and miss on the quality of their clutches. Some break, some don't, at the same power level. I wouldn't say fidanza 'sucks', its cheap, and if you get it balanced with your rotating assembly, it'll be just as good as any other flywheel.

My motor is being built and fully balanced by headway performance in the bronx

zzzybil · 11-10-2009, 09:10 AM

told to look into centerforce.....keep stock flywheel and just replace with a centerforce clutch ??

...i dunno what they offer......

someone describe our stock clutch ?? what makes other options compatible.....anything in particular to take in consideration

just tryin to learn and i don't know much about the stock clutch...sprung unsprung ..4 0r 6...( what does that actually represent ?)....self adjusting or not ??
jeezz what does all that mean??
what do we have / what do i want
...what can be changed .. where the differences in the upgrades start and stop....... just anything to get me motivated....... yeah yeah.... draggin my feet on this.......
i guess i need to know/want to know more about the stock clutch and what those other things mean ?.... maybe if i knew more about this one - a starting point ?... the process might make more sense...... i just wanna understand a lil more before i roll the dice

WintR · 11-10-2009, 07:53 PM

According to a wiki article "The splined hub is attached to the disc with springs to damp chatter."

SOLSTICE-D · 11-11-2009, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JT72

Over here in Cali there is a guy that has a small business that builds custom clutches using your existing pressure plate. Mainly just switching the teeth that controls the clutch pressure with some new ones with the option of stiff or factory feel or you can leave it at stock pressure while also offering you sprung or unsprung, 4,6, or solid disk.

I customized mine by having a factory feel pressure plate with an unsprung 6 puck that launches as soon as the disc makes contact with flywheel. It's something you have to get use to or you'll always stall. It's tha Fidanza that causes the vibration if not mistakening. I can let u know definitely when i get my car back. I'm going back to factory fly wheel with custom clutch.

id like to know where this place is at "JT"? IM LOOKING FOR SOMETHING.

zzzybil · 11-12-2009, 11:13 AM

i don't want to guess
are the clutches the same oem in both 2.4 and 2.0 ?
i know we share transmission with other platforms - does that mean we share clutch too ?....... i was looking and didn't see solstice listed and wondered if i searched under another platform - colorado truck ? whatever ?lol...i didn't know the make of a colorado sooooo couldn't check that out

i know this tranny is not unique to solstice only - my question is what other cars / trucks share the same clutch...
...or is that a stupid question

carlintexas · 11-13-2009, 03:37 PM

I bought a GXP clutch to see if it would bolt to the 2.4 flywheel.....nope! Gave it to the boys at DDM.

ELJonesy · 11-13-2009, 04:27 PM

lsj and lnf clutches and flywheels are not compatible with the le5. l61 clutches and flywheels are, however.

sprung clutches have springs that dampen the harshness of the clutch engagement. unsprung clutches are pretty rough to drive on the street, shorten the life of your transmission, and are more prone to chatter than sprung.

King-Oka · 11-13-2009, 06:39 PM

Keep asking zzzbil - I among others want to know more as well.

Dave - What makes the DDM clutch the right choice?

zzzybil · 11-14-2009, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ELJonesy

lsj and lnf clutches and flywheels are not compatible with the le5. l61 clutches and flywheels are, however.

sprung clutches have springs that dampen the harshness of the clutch engagement. unsprung clutches are pretty rough to drive on the street, shorten the life of your transmission, and are more prone to chatter than sprung.

that helps a lil ...lol... so i want "sprung"....((( progress )))
what else do i need to know - 4,6, solid ?..(references what ? )....wats that about?? help me "know" what i want - and maybe i'll have a better chance of finding it.......
....i'm not a big expert on l61 ( what that includes ) guessin on 2.2 ecotecs ? so much for searching other platforms.....no clue here which models are compatible...without doing alotta research.... thats cobalt , ions,granam,? cavaliers ...????? lol...
haven't really applied myself to learning everything about'm yet......
thought this would be an easier task

jt 's cally custom shop can't be the only place - too bad i pi$$ed him off bout raggin wussy foot & old people...lol... must be other shops doing similar work...
...maybe thats what i need to look for.....gold standard clutch and a shop that does custom work ?....lol...

wasn't that big a deal findin "bell" to build me an IC..wayyyyy back when... and now we have vendors sellin bell's IC....

i know other people are interested.......lurking......
wish they'd ask some stupid questions too !!----- pump up the learnin curve here.....