Firstly, "Jap" is a little racist to throw around as a word to describe something "bad". Secondly, no I4 will sound like a V8. If the engine sounds like a wound out 4 cylinder...maybe it's because that's what it is
4 cylinder has been one of the earliest types of motors used world wide, its not a Japan engine. Just has been used mostly in the past by Japan for economy autos.
Harley style V-twin and The Crossplane Crank V-8 is of American Origin
Both with the coolest sounds.
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And, whats wrong with dressing like a Pirate? Arrrrrrrr!
I wonder what you would call a Solstice 1%er club?
4 cylinder has been one of the earliest types of motors used world wide, its not a Japan engine. Just has been used mostly in the past by Japan for economy autos.
Harley style V-twin and The Crossplane Crank V-8 is of American Origin
Both with the coolest sounds.
That's incredibly irrelevant to what I posted. I posted that it was a bit of a racist thing to use the term "Jap" to describe something that was perceived as "bad", and that an inline four cylinder engine doesn't sound like an eight cylinder engine with the pistons arrayed in a "V" configuration
Your comments have absolutely nothing to do with what I said. Thank you for trying to give history to engines, but you seem a lot confused
That's incredibly irrelevant to what I posted. I posted that it was a bit of a racist thing to use the term "Jap" to describe something that was perceived as "bad", and that an inline four cylinder engine doesn't sound like an eight cylinder engine with the pistons arrayed in a "V" configuration
Your comments have absolutely nothing to do with what I said. Thank you for trying to give history to engines, but you seem a lot confused
I am amazed that the issue of racisms would be raised concerning a commonly used term to define a type of motor exhaust sound.
No posts by me are intended to be offensive.
The focus of this thread is to talk about the sound, good and bad. Also experiences with exhaust systems and sound of inline 4s. And possibly spur interest of vender's or free thinkers to look outside of the engineering box in addressing the sound of the inline 4. The possibility of not just changing tone or volume, but the feasibility of changing the perceived cadence via the exhaust system. Somewhat like what is achieved by accident on the WRX.
I do like the way that our motors make power and its potential power. We are lucky to have a very well designed, advanced engine platform.
I feel that Chris is the one confused, trying to confuse issues.
I am amazed that the issue of racisms would be raised concerning a commonly used term to define a type of motor exhaust sound.
No posts by me are intended to be offensive.
The focus of this thread is to talk about the sound, good and bad. Also experiences with exhaust systems and sound of inline 4s. And possibly spur interest of vender's or free thinkers to look outside of the engineering box in addressing the sound of the inline 4. The possibility of not just changing tone or volume, but the feasibility of changing the perceived cadence via the exhaust system. Somewhat like what is achieved by accident on the WRX.
I do like the way that our motors make power and its potential power. We are lucky to have a very well designed, advanced engine platform.
I feel that Chris is the one confused, trying to confuse issues.
No I think Chris is spot on. Jap is derogatory if you talk to anybody who served during WWII. You'll hear them use it as such. That being the case, you got a away with it, I assumed you didn't know any better or cared. But someone has called you out on it and all you did was change the subject.
You keep speaking in circular logic(if you can call it logic). We understand what the engines sound like, and how it is not possible to make one sound like a completely different engine. So this thread is dead. WE GOT IT. YOU LIKE THE SOUND OF HARLEY ENGINES AND WRX. PUT THEM IN YOUR CAR.
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Kappster,
Welcome to the thin skinned mostly old and decrepid Solstice forum. Just agree with everyone and everything or else you'll be black balled like me. They just love to make mountains out of mole hills.
just a note, all of the four cylinder engines spoken about int his thread are Japanese. Shortening that word to "Jap" seems no more offesnive than shortening European to "Euro"
In an attempt to be completely PC, the currrent generation, which includes me, has become irrational and, sorry if this offends, stupid.
I appreciate you folks that have replied to my original post. I can especially appreciate the money that has been spent to achieve a more entertaining sound. As I said in my first post, you can change the tone and volume of the inline 4. But it is the cadence of the engine that gives the basic sound. The inline 4 has a even spaced firing pattern. Like a 2 cylinder Honda trying to sound like a Harley, It cant. Because the Harley does not have an even spaced crank, it has a great uneven cadence that creates the sound. For years these Jap bikes that were made to look like V-twins but sounding like the parallel twin (the look without the cool..sound) The cranks in the Honda's were even spaced. So even with straight pipes they still sounded like a 1960s Honda twin that some kid took the mufflers off, yuck.
Likewise the Europe V-8 exotic cars have a crank that essentially just ties two inline 4s together. The American V-8 has a completely differently spaced crank. A sound (cadence)that sounds fantastic when the exhaust is opened up....(440 mopar with glasspacks).
My whole point is that when primary tubes are set up with a certain amount of differences in lengths with the correct 2 cylinders tied together that the exhaust then becomes more like the uneven cadence of a Harley or an American V-8. Then you can choose the volume and tone of a cool sounding ,lope, burble, rumble or cadence. Or what ever you want to call it. I am just pointing this out because of the WRX exhaust manifold and the much different sound that it produces.
I don't realy want a performance tone to get out of my exhaust system. And even though I am looking forward to change it with a Solo center dual exits, its just because I want my exhaust set-up to fit with Norms Fiberglass Diffuser.
So, I'll go with a new exhaust sytem... but I'll still try to retain it's near mute sound as much as possible. My guess is that the sporty sound on a Sol must come from either a turbo BOV or a Supercharger.
By the way, wanna hear my Trans-Am roaring a little bit? Watch that youtube vid:
I am amazed that the issue of racisms would be raised concerning a commonly used term to define a type of motor exhaust sound.
No posts by me are intended to be offensive.
The focus of this thread is to talk about the sound, good and bad. Also experiences with exhaust systems and sound of inline 4s. And possibly spur interest of vender's or free thinkers to look outside of the engineering box in addressing the sound of the inline 4. The possibility of not just changing tone or volume, but the feasibility of changing the perceived cadence via the exhaust system. Somewhat like what is achieved by accident on the WRX.
I do like the way that our motors make power and its potential power. We are lucky to have a very well designed, advanced engine platform.
I feel that Chris is the one confused, trying to confuse issues.
Jesus Christ, have you been down a well for 70 years? Jap is a derogatory word. It ain't because it's "PC", it's a fact, and if you aren't aware of it, then it doesn't change the fact. It happens to be the first three letters of the word "japanese". So what? the context and term is not complimentary. I don't give two ****s about PC so all you PC cops out there can save it
I am trying to remind folks that we're all supposed to at least try to get along here, we all are fans of the same car and whatnot, and I get treated like f'ing Mao tse tung, the evil originator of that ridiculous Political Correctness bull****. As usual, people online go right past the point and key on whatever it is they feel like paying attention to.
And speaking of missing the point-for the second time in a row, you quote me, and then talk about something else besides the quote. What's up with that, kitty-kat??
Kappster,
Welcome to the thin skinned mostly old and decrepid Solstice forum. Just agree with everyone and everything or else you'll be black balled like me. They just love to make mountains out of mole hills.
So, I'll go with a new exhaust sytem... but I'll still try to retain it's near mute sound as much as possible. My guess is that the sporty sound on a Sol must come from either a turbo BOV or a Supercharger.
Nope. The sc doesn't change the sound, just how quick it changes pitch from the more quickly increasing rpm's .
The center exit will be louder than stock. If you want to keep it relatively quiet, stay with the stock cat. The hiflow cats make a significant difference in volume. But even with the stock cat, your not going to be stock quiet. What you will have is a very nice sounding exhaust though .
Mods: DDM Stage II supercharger, long tube header and cat, Probeam, and Race Backbone. Solo Performance SQR-2 catback. Norm's first center exit Solstice rear fascia. JPM center console. DashHawk.
Jesus Christ, have you been down a well for 70 years? Jap is a derogatory word. It ain't because it's "PC", it's a fact, and if you aren't aware of it, then it doesn't change the fact. It happens to be the first three letters of the word "japanese". So what? the context and term is not complimentary. I don't give two ****s about PC so all you PC cops out there can save it
I am trying to remind folks that we're all supposed to at least try to get along here, we all are fans of the same car and whatnot, and I get treated like f'ing Mao tse tung, the evil originator of that ridiculous Political Correctness bull****. As usual, people online go right past the point and key on whatever it is they feel like paying attention to.
And speaking of missing the point-for the second time in a row, you quote me, and then talk about something else besides the quote. What's up with that, kitty-kat??
Would they really be offended for calling them something that they are?
"Japs" is short for Japanese people.
If they are offended, maybe they shouldn't be Japanese.
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