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Old 07-20-2008, 03:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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How to Install an Ecotec into a Street Rod

I am starting a new thread to document the build of my Anglia Street Rod.

Copying old text only to start the thread

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I am installing an LSJ 2.0 l supercharged Ecotec in my 1953 Anglia (copied from New Member Checkin)



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Check out these curb weights

2008 Cobalt SS turbo 2975 pounds
2008 Solstice GXP 2948 pounds
1953 Anglia 1400 pounds

By the way, my Anglia in stock form has approx. 30 hp and a top speed of 47 mph.

Attached is a pictures of what a modified Anglia looks like - somewhat faster than mine ...

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Anybody that would drive a 90 inch wheelbase, 42 inch trackwidth, gazillion hp Anglia is nuts. See attached utube file for examples (Copied from new member checkin) ...

da noo guy - Page 2 - A community for the GM Ecotec engine

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Polished Ecotec oilpan installed - way too much time on my hands (Copied from New Member Checkin) ...

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Motor Mount Part Details (Copied from Parts Wanted):

Part Number Description MSRP

15876977 Bracket $28.81
10345238 Bracket 21.10
10351213 Mount 61.60
21999166 Mount 64.11
11589340 Bolt 3.51 7 Required Brackets to Engine
11516754 Nut 4.25 4 Required

Frame Brackets are not available - POA to frame.

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As a reminder, I am installing a supercharged Ecotec in a street rod - a 1953 Anglia. While closing the loop on "Parts Wanted" is not quite the same as in "Parts for Sale" when they are sold, I believe my experiences including part numbers will benefit the forum. Please let me know if you are interested in further updates from me.


I have been looking for used parts for awhile - they apparently do not exist - so, I decided to purchase new parts. I checked aftermarket sources like Prothane and Energy Suspension etc., but they have not released urethane mounts for 2.0 Ecotecs yet. Also, the stock GXP mounts are hydraulic (+ expensive) to eliminate powertrain vibration which is a good thing in a street rod. I will use the stock transmission mount as well - no aftermarket parts yet ...

I wanted to get my supercharged Ecotec 2.0 mocked up in my build chassis, even if the motor mount brackets are just tack welded on for now. From there, I can work rearward with the clutch next so I can install the transmission, including transmission mount and crossbar. If necessary, I can leave the clutch out for this stage in the build ...

My clutch experience to date parallels what happened on the motor mounts with aftermarket sources (Spec, Exedy etc.) not having parts available. My spec contact said that the 2.0 clutch assembly is the same as the 2.4 - I am confirming this as I believed they were different. Also, I want to study OEM vs. aftermarket clutch performance and use an aluminum flywheel.

So ... summary to date ... still looking for used clutch assemblies and starters, but considering OEM and aftermarket.

Attached is a picture of my chassis and various parts clutter - LOL !!!

Anglipop

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Motor Mount Installation (Copied From Parts Wanted)

The exhaust side went on just fine, but there were two issues with the intake manifold side. The first issue to resolve is converting the two top bolt holes in the block from 8 to 10 mm.

The second issue was not obvious, but there was no boss/ locating hole in the lower engine girdle for RWD motor motors on my Cobalt supercharged engine (and other FWD Ectec applications). Apparently, this addition did not take place until Kappa (Solstice and Sky) 2.0 production began in 2007.

So, stay tuned for my adapter bracket fabrication. The only alternative to the bracket is to upgrade the lower engine girdle with the newer part - not the best approach.

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Old 07-20-2008, 03:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Timing Chain Cover

Since work on the intake manifold motor mount adapter bracket is not complete, I installed my timing cover which I polished over the last week or so. Picture 1 shows the timing cover installed. Picture 2 shows the crank pulley installed. I tried installing the idler pulley, but the bolt seemed to bottom out before required torque was reached. Looking at the service manual, my idler pulley looks like the 2.2 l instead of the 2.0 l type. Any suggestions on whether I should go ahead and use the 2.2 idler ? Shorten the bolt or drill the mounting hole about another 1/4 inch and tap it ? Please let me know what you think ...

I just noticed that I can't attach the above pictures. Any suggestions on how to do this ?
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Since work on the intake manifold motor mount adapter bracket is not complete, I installed my timing cover which I polished over the last week or so. Picture 1 shows the timing cover installed. Picture 2 shows the crank pulley installed. I tried installing the idler pulley, but the bolt seemed to bottom out before required torque was reached. Looking at the service manual, my idler pulley looks like the 2.2 l instead of the 2.0 l type. Any suggestions on whether I should go ahead and use the 2.2 idler ? Shorten the bolt or drill the mounting hole about another 1/4 inch and tap it ? Please let me know what you think ...

I just noticed that I can't attach the above pictures. Any suggestions on how to do this ?
i believe that you need to be a member for 30 days and have 30 posts ... but it's been a while for me.

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Thanks for the headsup on the 30/30 rule. I will indicate where the pictures and add them later ...
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Old 07-20-2008, 06:51 PM   #5 (permalink)
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anglipop,

Someone will step in and correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that you will need to put your pictures on an online site such as photobucket.com, sticko.com, etc, then put them here using image tags. (Both of the above sites have "click to copy" buttons for posting. The privilege to post directly, i.e., using SolsticeForum.com site space, was reserved for the first 1000 folks to get a membership here.

I use both photobucket and sticko. Either works fine for me.

Here are pics from each place:


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I noticed you've also posted this info over on the GXP forum. You can create hyperlinks to the posts on that site to link them here. Like this: Ecotec in an Anglia or this: Timing chain cover You can try hosting your pics over there in the gallery. That's what I do.
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Thankyou for the great suggestions.
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i believe that you need to be a member for 30 days and have 30 posts ... but it's been a while for me.

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Can't ATTACH pictures unless you are a founding member or supporting member.

Must use an online hosting site as someone mentioned previously.
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Your youtube link is invalid, good luck with the build.
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Deep Blue GXP,

Resending link - it worked for me ...

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anglipop, when posting youtube info on this forum, read this thread for help.
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I get this error when I click your link
"The URL contained a malformed video ID. "
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To keep things simple, what I will do is use the "Ecotec Engine" forum as my home site for updates on my "How to Install an Ecotec into a Street Rod Build" thread. That way, I can update the Solstice forum with links to new content + PICTURES :-} and keep my sanity in the process.

Deep Blue GXP - Try my revised link back to the Ecotec Engine site which contains the new UTube link on Anglia Drag Racing and let me know if everything works. There are also other similar Anglia racing videos on UTube - all of which will convince you never to buy or race one.
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Motor Mount Adapter Bracket Fab and Install

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Thanks for posting the link to the Anglia Drag racing video. There are other Anglia vids on the bottom of the screen - worth a look. Imbedding the UTube screen on a post here is really cool; I assume that your UTube instructions tell me how to do it, so I will check out that post.

Attached is a link to my Motor Mount Adapter Bracket Fab and Install which includes 2 posts on the bracket and a 3rd post answering previous questions.



How to Install an Ecotec in a Street Rod - Page 2 - A community for the GM Ecotec engine
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Motor Mount Adapter Bracket Fab & Install - Part 1

The plan to homeroom the build progress of my Ecotec/Anglia was brilliant, except for one small detail ...

You have to be a member of the Ecotec Engine forum to see the updates.

Oh no, Mr. Bill ...

Maybe I will have to start my own website or something. Don't ya love it when the plan comes together !

Attached is Part 1 of my Motor Mount Fab and Install - Text only. I am working on an easy way to attach the pictures.

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I completed the fabrication and installation of the Motor Mount (Intake Manifold side).

The attached pictures (1-5 here, remaining pics in new post) show the details:

Drill and tap 2 upper motor mount holes from 8 to 10 mm to length of bolt.
Drill and tap lower left and upper right adapter bracket holes to same depth as upper motor mount holes above. Shorten bolts to this length. Alternately, you could just keep drilling - NOT ...

Purchase a piece of 1/4 inch 304 stainless steel. At least, that is what the metal store told me it was. I secretly think they sold me tank armor plating and are still laughing at the thought of me working it.

Design a super detailed template of the adapter bracket.

Use super template to outline bracket on piece of stainless.

Picture of real motor mount.






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