that looks very interesting, and would allow me to do this myself. well for anyone who is interested i priced out all the parts for this and with the ls2 and t56 trans is about 13,000 for everything and i mean everything. thats even putting cadillac cts-v rear gears into it. then when you sell your factory engine, at least for the gxp's your probably under 10k... not to shabby if you ask me
Or... use that GXP motor to build a kickass Ariel Atom and sell it for a hefty profit when you're all done. Then again, who could part with one of these babies once they were done building it? :
I bought my LS1 w/ T56 complete (ecm, wiring, accesories, etc.) w/ 12k miles for $5,000. I also have a rear differential out of a cts-v as a backup in case the solstice one gives out. I paid $500 for that with 500 miles on it.
jag, what all did you include in the $13,000 estimate?
I bought my LS1 w/ T56 complete (ecm, wiring, accesories, etc.) w/ 12k miles for $5,000. I also have a rear differential out of a cts-v as a backup in case the solstice one gives out. I paid $500 for that with 500 miles on it.
jag, what all did you include in the $13,000 estimate?
-Adam
ls2, t56, all the peripherals for the engine, ac components, clutch components, rear gears from cts-v, ac components, driveshaft, wiring harness and ecu, i think thats it. the list for the components from hot rod magazine helped a little bit
All, I'm going to be stalled for a few weeks as my real job is taking up most of my free time and I'm waiting for some custom parts to be machined. However, I'm still going to be working on the custom gauges and throttle-by-wire, so if my updates are unimpressive, that's why.
A few things to note regarding clearances:
1.) Whether you're using an LS1/2/6 you will want to use an oil pan from a C6 Corvette. Other pans will not work. C6 oil pans have a rear pickup tube and the pan is only 4 inches deep.
-GTO oil pans have a front pickup tube and the deepest part of the pan is 5.5-6 inches.
-Camaro/Trans am oil pans have a rear pickup tube but the pan is 5.25 inches deep.
In order for the motor to sit low enough and have the throttle body clear the hood, you need the C6 oil pan.
2.) Now that the oil pan allows you to drop the motor further down you also need different motor mount brackets. The stock LSx brackets do not allow the motor to sit low enough. I'm currently having some brackets CNC'd to lower the mounting position 1 inch. I'll post pics when they're done, but this could be a few weeks.
That's all I have for now, waiting for parts... and free time. Later.
Here are some pictures that might explain the motor mounts a bit better. The first picture just shows the two new holes (the ones that are symmetrical from side to side). In the second picture you can see the mount stands and the mounts. Had I known that I was going to be making custom motor mount stands I would've tried to use the original mount holes in the frame. -Adam
Thanks, Adam. I had seen those pictures on cardomain before, but now that I study them I can see what's going on. Could you please post pics of the corvette brackets next to your custom fabbed brackets when you get them?
Have you contacted Werks to see if their mounts are available yet and if they would be any cheaper than having your own CNC'd?
No, I haven't contacted Werks. I have a buddy that does CNC work, so I really only need to pay for material. Hopefully they work out, if they don't I'll talk to Werks.
Any progress lateley? Have you run into any roadblocks, or is it just that you're still in Ireland? How did those mounts come out? Are there any specs on them that you can share, or is your friend willing to make and sell a few more sets?
I basically took 3 weeks off from working on the car due to my job. But, I took this whole week off and have been working on the car. Look for a big update on Monday as I put the motor in for the last time, mount the radiator (hopefully), finish 90% of the wiring and start reassembly of the front end. The gauges are in too and they look sweet. I'm going to start putting together a spreadsheet with all the parts/part numbers of everything I'm using, look for it on cardomain. Once I get a bit more time I'll start on the wiring diagram as well, the throttle-by-wire should work fine, but I'm still working on it. Anyways, look for the update Monday, that should answer your questions.
I basically took 3 weeks off from working on the car due to my job. But, I took this whole week off and have been working on the car. Look for a big update on Monday as I put the motor in for the last time, mount the radiator (hopefully), finish 90% of the wiring and start reassembly of the front end. The gauges are in too and they look sweet. I'm going to start putting together a spreadsheet with all the parts/part numbers of everything I'm using, look for it on cardomain. Once I get a bit more time I'll start on the wiring diagram as well, the throttle-by-wire should work fine, but I'm still working on it. Anyways, look for the update Monday, that should answer your questions.
Thanks for keeping up,
Adam
Awesome! Thank YOU for taking the time to post your progress here and at cardomain.
Lookin' good, Adam. Sounds good, too. What are your plans for the exhaust? Judging by that picture of the oil pressure sending unit, it looks awefully close to that flange. Is it just the angle of the picture that makes it seem that way?
There is clearance between the oil press. sending unit and the exhaust flange, a bit more than it looks like. However, I'm going to use LS2 manifolds. The LS1 manifolds from the T/A work well on the driver's side, but not so well on the passenger side. The LS2 manifolds (from the 'vette') dump out in the middle up high, whereas the LS1's dump at the back (farther back on the pass. side). The LS1's are useable, but the LS2's I believe will fit better, I'll know this weekend as I'll have both to try when I make the exhaust system. I'm using Hushpower II mufflers and 2.5 inch mandrel bent pipe, so it should still be loud but not obnoxious. I'll post a video when I'm done.