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Old 06-29-2007, 11:14 AM   #16 (permalink)
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company called Speartech can make you a custom integrated wiring harness....they've done them before for the LSx to Solstice swaps
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company called Speartech can make you a custom integrated wiring harness....they've done them before for the LSx to Solstice swaps
u wouldnt happen to have their contact info would you?
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company called Speartech can make you a custom integrated wiring harness....they've done them before for the LSx to Solstice swaps
Thanks for the tip, SolGTP.

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u wouldnt happen to have their contact info would you?
Here's the link, jag: http://www.speartech.com/

Personally, I'm not afraid to do my own harness. I worked as an audio/alarm installer for a few years and I've even done some projects integrating into factory harnesses at the fuse panels, BCM and ECM connectors using Delphi-type connectors. I have all of the tools and knowhow.

However, if a Speartech harness will be truly "plug and play" and allow me to keep the gauges without going cross-eyed over wiring schematics, it might be worth the $1,700 and change. Even though I am waiting another two years to start, I'm all for getting it on the road sooner!
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The width is fine, but you do have to drill new holes. The ls1 mounts are symmetrical whereas the ecotec are not.
Drilling holes I can do easily! For me, the less welding, the better. I have two years to practice, I suppose. As of right now, I've only messed with welders on one occasion. My father has all of the equipment (MIG and ARC) and he had it for years. I have no excuse for not being a capable welder already.

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Here's the link, jag: http://www.speartech.com/

Personally, I'm not afraid to do my own harness. I worked as an audio/alarm installer for a few years and I've even done some projects integrating into factory harnesses at the fuse panels, BCM and ECM connectors using Delphi-type connectors. I have all of the tools and knowhow.

However, if a Speartech harness will be truly "plug and play" and allow me to keep the gauges without going cross-eyed over wiring schematics, it might be worth the $1,700 and change. Even though I am waiting another two years to start, I'm all for getting it on the road sooner!

that looks very interesting, and would allow me to do this myself. well for anyone who is interested i priced out all the parts for this and with the ls2 and t56 trans is about 13,000 for everything and i mean everything. thats even putting cadillac cts-v rear gears into it. then when you sell your factory engine, at least for the gxp's your probably under 10k... not to shabby if you ask me
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that looks very interesting, and would allow me to do this myself. well for anyone who is interested i priced out all the parts for this and with the ls2 and t56 trans is about 13,000 for everything and i mean everything. thats even putting cadillac cts-v rear gears into it. then when you sell your factory engine, at least for the gxp's your probably under 10k... not to shabby if you ask me
Or... use that GXP motor to build a kickass Ariel Atom and sell it for a hefty profit when you're all done. Then again, who could part with one of these babies once they were done building it? :

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Old 06-30-2007, 10:13 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I bought my LS1 w/ T56 complete (ecm, wiring, accesories, etc.) w/ 12k miles for $5,000. I also have a rear differential out of a cts-v as a backup in case the solstice one gives out. I paid $500 for that with 500 miles on it.

jag, what all did you include in the $13,000 estimate?

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I bought my LS1 w/ T56 complete (ecm, wiring, accesories, etc.) w/ 12k miles for $5,000. I also have a rear differential out of a cts-v as a backup in case the solstice one gives out. I paid $500 for that with 500 miles on it.

jag, what all did you include in the $13,000 estimate?

-Adam
ls2, t56, all the peripherals for the engine, ac components, clutch components, rear gears from cts-v, ac components, driveshaft, wiring harness and ecu, i think thats it. the list for the components from hot rod magazine helped a little bit
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Old 07-01-2007, 02:03 PM   #24 (permalink)
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All, I'm going to be stalled for a few weeks as my real job is taking up most of my free time and I'm waiting for some custom parts to be machined. However, I'm still going to be working on the custom gauges and throttle-by-wire, so if my updates are unimpressive, that's why.

A few things to note regarding clearances:

1.) Whether you're using an LS1/2/6 you will want to use an oil pan from a C6 Corvette. Other pans will not work. C6 oil pans have a rear pickup tube and the pan is only 4 inches deep.

-GTO oil pans have a front pickup tube and the deepest part of the pan is 5.5-6 inches.
-Camaro/Trans am oil pans have a rear pickup tube but the pan is 5.25 inches deep.

In order for the motor to sit low enough and have the throttle body clear the hood, you need the C6 oil pan.

2.) Now that the oil pan allows you to drop the motor further down you also need different motor mount brackets. The stock LSx brackets do not allow the motor to sit low enough. I'm currently having some brackets CNC'd to lower the mounting position 1 inch. I'll post pics when they're done, but this could be a few weeks.

That's all I have for now, waiting for parts... and free time. Later.

-Adam

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Old 07-01-2007, 09:10 PM   #25 (permalink)
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2KWK4U,

Here are some pictures that might explain the motor mounts a bit better. The first picture just shows the two new holes (the ones that are symmetrical from side to side). In the second picture you can see the mount stands and the mounts. Had I known that I was going to be making custom motor mount stands I would've tried to use the original mount holes in the frame. -Adam

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Old 07-01-2007, 09:30 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Im pretty sure hotrod mag said they used a cadillac cts-v wiring harness as well.
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Old 07-01-2007, 09:50 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Thanks, Adam. I had seen those pictures on cardomain before, but now that I study them I can see what's going on. Could you please post pics of the corvette brackets next to your custom fabbed brackets when you get them?

Have you contacted Werks to see if their mounts are available yet and if they would be any cheaper than having your own CNC'd?
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No, I haven't contacted Werks. I have a buddy that does CNC work, so I really only need to pay for material. Hopefully they work out, if they don't I'll talk to Werks.
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Old 07-25-2007, 11:44 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Adam,

Any progress lateley? Have you run into any roadblocks, or is it just that you're still in Ireland? How did those mounts come out? Are there any specs on them that you can share, or is your friend willing to make and sell a few more sets?
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Old 07-27-2007, 02:35 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I basically took 3 weeks off from working on the car due to my job. But, I took this whole week off and have been working on the car. Look for a big update on Monday as I put the motor in for the last time, mount the radiator (hopefully), finish 90% of the wiring and start reassembly of the front end. The gauges are in too and they look sweet. I'm going to start putting together a spreadsheet with all the parts/part numbers of everything I'm using, look for it on cardomain. Once I get a bit more time I'll start on the wiring diagram as well, the throttle-by-wire should work fine, but I'm still working on it. Anyways, look for the update Monday, that should answer your questions.

Thanks for keeping up,
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