G-Force Performance Chip

[warrenhotrod1]

Has anyone tried this chip in a 2.0 turbo? What do you think of it?

[Randy@ddmworks]

Originally Posted by warrenhotrod1 Has anyone tried this chip in a 2.0 turbo? What do you think of it?

There are no "chips" for our cars...you have to reprogram the entire ECM. the "chips" for performance are a scam.

[mikeross]

its a scam, just a .25c resistor that plugs in the iat sensor to fool the computer into thinking it was getting colder air or something like that, i remember when i had a mustang, ebay was flooded with them..

[Melon]

So, a power programmer that reflashes the ECM works?

Any recommendations on one that does the deed?

[canuknut]

Many tunes out there one good one is Westers Race tune makes GXP have WOW factor lol

[Melon]

Quote from Westers was $495 USD. They are in Canada.

Here's a paste of their email back to me....

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>> $495 includes return freight. If you ever do upgrades to your vehicle in
>> the future, ECM programming
>> is free. 20% HP gain with 91-93 octane.
>> 15% with 89 Octane.
>> 10%-12% with 87 Octane.
>>
>> There 'may' be dyno graphs on our website, but I've never had a complaint
>> on these after reprogramming them for
>> anyone, including Saturn Motorsports (we used to do all their programming
>> till they folded last year).

AND

Fuel economy has always been better with our tuning, and we actually turn
the fans on 'earlier' than
GM does to prevent thermal overloading. So instead of having your fans turn
on at 215-230F -- we
turn them on at 195F ! Definitely a plus when sitting in traffic.

[wspohn]

Westers has a good reputation, but requires AFAIK the removal of the PCM, shipping it to them, and getting it back and installing it again.

You may also want to consider Trifecta, which can email you a new tune, and have you run an acceleration run using your laptop and the software they supply (plus an interface cable they loan you via mail), email the new file back to them, get a final revised file customized exactly to your specific vehicle back by terurn email, and away you go. Down time = zero.

[Melon]

Yes, you're right....Trifecta's advantage is that they are also cheaper. 300 vs 495.....a deal if it's apples to apples....

[WifesGXP]

Westers has dealers all over that can do the tune on the spot. I had mine done locally, in and out in less than an hour.

Check their website for dealer locations.

[wspohn]

Good to hear. Trifecta also has representatives that will program on site.

The basic Trifecta tune is on sale for $200 right now. If you want the selectatune with retune service it is $400.

[Melon]

Trifecta Performance Custom Tuning :: Deals and Specials

Thanks....