Now that we are getting the options, I would like to hear arguments for and against the two power upgrades.
I think others will also be interested in what our forum boosters think.
Thanks to all in advance.
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Let me say this since that topic can become as bad as politics.
If you have already done mods to your car like CAI, header, then the S/C will let you keep those mods.
Another small point is heat, installation maybe a bit easier for the S/C.
I would suggest to check out both systems and see how they stack against each other, ease of installation, low end power, high end power, etc.
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I agree with LV about it getting heated. Each has its own pro and cons.
Madmods, I noticed recently that your sig includes a Mallet supercharger. I don't remember reading anything about it as far as impressions etc. As always, inquiring minds want to know .
I have both a centrifugal S/C and Turbo charged Saturn (first gen). The Turbo is a track only car with about 10K turbo miles max and the S/C is my daily driver with something north of 80K miles on an engine that just went over 100K total miles. I drive at least 120 miles a day to and from work and wouldn't have it any other way. Both cars make about the same max HP and TQ, but the S/C is easier for the lady to drive. (Actually she wont even drive the Turbo because it's too scary) Disco Potato w/ internal wastegate @ 11psi.
You can make just as much power with a centrifugal S/C as you can with a Turbo and you can make the same linear increase in power with a Turbo as you can with an S/C.
Centrifugal S/C's are nothing more than belt driven Turbo's and weather it's crank driven or exhaust driven it takes HP to compress the air in the volute.
I my experience you usually have to upgrade the cooling system and almost always use an intercooler to run a turbo, but many S/C systems work just fine with the basic cooling system and non-intercooled. I find that a simple designed S/C system will cost less than a turbo system, but produce the same results. S/C Size has been an issue in the past, but Rotrex just smashed that problem with a blower the size of an alternator and impeller speeds equal to a turbo.
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which setup will give you more low end power because i rarely shift past 4k?
a positive displacement s/c....only way to go for lower rpms
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I agree with SolGTP. My experience with teh S/C is instant gratification and power build through the entire band. In general turbos need to spool up, while a S/C is already turning.
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I agree with SolGTP. My experience with teh S/C is instant gratification and power build through the entire band. In general turbos need to spool up, while a S/C is already turning.
What are the cost differences between the two? I know its apples to oranges but which is cheaper to buy/install and then maintain?
What are the cost differences between the two? I know its apples to oranges but which is cheaper to buy/install and then maintain?
cheaper way to go in the end is super charger, best power band way to go is turbo charger. I am very happy with my turbo set up right now. This car just wants to go now. I am trying to keep it out of boost but it is just soo hard
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IMO - I agree with scdyne & solgtp. Seems to me the s/c would be a cleaner, easier more durable option. Option is the key word - we didn't have any (only one) in May '06.
Eliminating heat would have saved me $600 for the Werks radiator and $525 for Norm's fenders. Either that or I need to move north to get out of this summer heat!
There was a thread started last fall regarding an s/c kit that would be coming out in March or April to give us an affordable s/c option to compete with Mallett. Wonder how many $7k s/c kits Mallett has sold? There was even a rumor about GM offering a s/c kit sometime this year.
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