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post #31 of 101 (permalink) Old 08-22-2017, 07:06 PM
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Here is the result when done correctly. These are in ABS. Pretty strong and once a little sanding and trimming work very well.
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And in red for Punisher. I have several other colors as well. Thanks much for the file. I am going to one in nylon and carbon fiber to see how they turn out. Takes about half an hour and a few feet of material. Riven did the heavy lifting and this is his project.

Riven if you want one in ABS in a particular color, or maybe carbon fiber let me know and I will use you as my next test case.
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I tried it in ABS first but it didnt seem to slide well. The PETG is slicker for me. It almost feels lubed. Did you have any issues with it sliding smooth in ABS? It could just be me. I never got my ABS tuned in just right.
Another question, i see you did 40%ish?? Infill, does it still feel strong. I went straight to 100% when i did mine, I may be waisting plastic.
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I did a bit of sanding to take off any roughness and it slides well

I used the default settings

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I tried it in ABS first but it didnt seem to slide well. The PETG is slicker for me. It almost feels lubed. Did you have any issues with it sliding smooth in ABS? It could just be me. I never got my ABS tuned in just right.
Another question, i see you did 40%ish?? Infill, does it still feel strong. I went straight to 100% when i did mine, I may be waisting plastic.
The Fiero console skeleton is ABS. As a result, it's nearly impossible to find one that isn't cracked and broken. If they'd made it out of a less brittle material (like nylon) few would be broken. I don't know much about PETg, but if it's like nylon and less prone to cracking than ABS, I think it's a superior material for this application.
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ABS is I think stronger and more resistant to heat

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If you do some Acetone vapor smoothing I'm willing to bet it'll be indistinguishable from a oem one.

I might give it a try later, I just hate printing in ABS.
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Generally speaking PETG is supposed to be more durable than ABS, but durable is an interesting term people use for it. Its really more flexible, which in theory would increase durability, but it really all depends on the application.
This has only been in my car for about a week, so I really don't know how durable it is yet.

PETG had a glass transition temperature of 175 deg. ABS is a bit over 200 deg.

For those interested I had this site bookmarked when I first started reading about PETG.

https://rigid.ink/blogs/news/1757006...u-need-to-know
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My first test in black is done. I am going to break this one in a couple of ways to make sure the print settings are good for the new material.

I am going to do them all in 100% infill, but I am playing with adding more parameters (at 6 now) to keep the load going around continuous layers.

They take a couple hours to print, so they come off pretty quickly.
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Interesting. My Airwolf3d Axiom printer runs 250C for the heads and 125C for the bed. On "fine" it takes about 40 minutes to print

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Mine was running that fast till I cranked up the infill to 100%
I upped the support percent to 40 to make the bottom as smooth as possible.
I also set the speed to 45.

Is "fine" a .2 layer height? Not sure what slicer you use. I use cura but i have never used any of the canned profiles.

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Interesting. My Airwolf3d Axiom printer runs ...
Crap! That is one expensive printer!

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Good morning Riven02! How much would you charge an individual for a copy of that armature on the drink holder? Mine fell apart about a year ago and certainly don't want to pay the exorbitant price of new replacement! Thanks!
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Id be interested in a couple of these. Mine still works but I'm sure it will break eventually. Can you post info on ordering and cost?
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PET is way stronger than ABS - but the addition of the glycol takes care of that. As Riven said, "strength" and "durability" are really subjective based upon the application and the geometry.

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