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Imagine a pic of a Wicked colored coupe here
A recent photo by yours truly of a Pontiac Solstice Coupe. I don’t think I had ever seen one in person until this. While a Solstice has been featured in a previous Frugal Friday, and I have written about it and its close cousin—the Saturn Sky, I have not featured both of them in a Frugal Friday post.

Obviously I am a big fan of these cars. While they shared the same platform they did not share any sheet metal. I like the looks of the Sky more than the Solstice, but I think both cars are quite handsome.

My wonderful wife and I have both test driven a Sky, although not in Red Line spec. The Sky Red Line and Solstice GXP had a 2-liter/122 cubic-inch, turbocharged four-cylinder engine that produced 260 HP/260 LB-FT of torque, which still might be the highest specific output of any GM engine ever. An available dealer installed option was a modified computer tune and two new sensors that resulted in an increased output to 290 HP/340 LB-FT.

Today’s Frugal Friday, therefore, is the “best” deals on a GXP and Red Line. Much subjectivity is involved as it’s not necessarily the least expensive car offered for sale in the US, but a combination of price and perceived quality. The Solstice first:

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Picture via Autotrader; it is a 2007 Pontiac Solstice GXP in Yellow over Black with a manual transmission and just 37,000 miles. I limited my search to cars with fewer than 60,000 miles. The seller is asking $14,490.

Imagine a pic of a black Sky here
Also from Autotrader and, obviously, offered by Lucky Line Motors (in Fredericksburg, VA) is a 2007 Saturn Sky Red Line in Black over Red. This Red Line has 51,000 miles and has an automatic transmission. The dealer is asking just $10,990.

It’s hard for me to imagine two more interesting cars that are so affordable. For the nth time the average “transaction price” of a new vehicle in the US is approaching $40,000. The list price of both of these cars combined is only about $25,000. A shout-out to David Banner who suggested a feature like this.

Since it is likely I will begin revealing my Ultimate Garage 2.0 tomorrow and since that reveal, along with the cars that just missed the cut, will take about two weeks, Throwback Thursday and Frugal Friday will not appear until after Ultimate Garage 2.0 is finished.

The straw that breaks the camel’s back doesn’t even have to be as heavy as the other straws…

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One sensor, not two.

Agree that they are currently a great value for the performance and styling.
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One sensor, not two.

Agree that they are currently a great value for the performance and styling.
Mine came with two sensors.
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Without doubt, two sensors on the GMPP tune kit for my first Sol GXP that I purchased through Crate Engine Depot, in 2010.

When I let that car go, I supplied the two original sensors.


It would be nice to see a renewed interest in Kappas, to encourage the aftermarket to make some parts. Around here, where I was living when I had my first one up to 2012, people ask me what my car is. Pity they can't seem to read, eh?

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Without doubt, two sensors on the GMPP tune kit for my first Sol GXP that I purchased through Crate Engine Depot, in 2010.

It would be nice to see a renewed interest in Kappas, to encourage the aftermarket to make some parts.
I stand corrected. Mine was installed in 2009- some water under the bridge since then.

And yes, as a Fiero owner I agree that extreme affordability does not help with aftermarket parts availability. My buddy can get *everything* for his 1969 912, including the dash, which was unique to that year and model. Meanwhile, there is a dearth of parts (not none, but some major gaps) for Fiero restoration. Used GT tail lights in 9.5/10 condition cost more than many complete cars.

The short production run will hurt the Kappas from a collectibility standpoint, I think: Nostalgia plays a big role in classic car values and it wasn't around long enough for it to be the "car of my teenage dreams" for a lot of people.
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Yeah - imagine of the Miata had been made for only four years, 1989-1992 - wonder how much stuff would still be available for them?

The Fiero situation isn't that bad but something like the mentioned GT taillights are hard to find in good condition - they had a tendency to come unglued with the outer housing separating from the rear housing.

Wonder how hard it will be to find good Kappa headlights in 2040.....(they'll be the same age then as the last Fiero is now).

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Yeah - imagine of the Miata had been made for only four years, 1989-1992 - wonder how much stuff would still be available for them?
There would still be 4 times as many Miatas as there were Solstices. Thus, more stuff would still be available. It has to do with the size of the market.



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It has to do with the size of the market.
And what the market is willing to pay for parts.
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