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post #46 of 272 (permalink) Old 12-21-2007, 06:16 PM
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IIRC ... if we were to "dig" into the archives here and the early stages of the pinion seal leaks - the early leaks were blamed on a malfunctioning seal.

Perhaps this recall is just an assurance that ALL vehicles - those who don't frequent forums, those not driven often, those that have not leaked YET, etc. - will indeed be retro fitted with the NEWER pinion seal and thus reduce the odds of further issues in safety as in the two stated in the GM document.

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IIRC ... if we were to "dig" into the archives here and the early stages of the pinion seal leaks - the early leaks were blamed on a malfunctioning seal.

Perhaps this recall is just an assurance that ALL vehicles - those who don't frequent forums, those not driven often, those that have not leaked YET, etc. - will indeed be retro fitted with the NEWER pinion seal and thus reduce the odds of further issues in safety as in the two stated in the GM document.
C'mon, Moms, using logic? Is that fair?

It will be interesting to see how they handle those of us who have had our seals replaced and have had no problems since. The service department where I took mine (same physical location as my selling dealership, but under different owners/name) certainly were well aware of the issue and how to properly lift our cars. I suppose that when I get my letter, I'll just give them a call and see what happens.

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Limited Slip = 'locking'
NO LS = Open
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I will be contacting my dealership with this information next week and

...as I said before...don't necessarily want a replacement

but if it is offered...and accepted

will be well documented..as Merlin has had no issues since 11-05

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the whine goes away with the replacement ???????????????

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Replaced my seal at 3,000 miles

Hope they used the new seal, don't have to do it again????
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For all those in the past who suspected there were way more diff problems than some people would admit, here is your vindication. for all those who adamantly denied any major issues, here is your wakeup call to join reality. I've noticed the "defenders" of the diff have remained mostly quiet on this thread.
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i always thought the clunk,whine,leak were all related --i was wrong about that i guess--i did always believe tthat the drivetrain had problems and gm adding the torque bar was my vindication--you just don't do major changes like that to fix " normal " problems--i am happy gm is finally doing something--i am disgusted tho that gm continues to tell people that clunking and whining is normal--my new 07 must be abnormal then because it doesn't do either--i think the main reason i won my lemon case was because gm tried to tell the arbitrater that a leaking diff was normal.......

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Interesting question.

Limited slip and non-limited slip rear differentials use the same part numbers seal and new seal kits.

No specific information has been given to dealerships, or included in the press coverage and NHTSA information.

It does appear that the effected vehilce populations are a little "light" on numbers.

The 18,748 2006 Solstices, 21,310 2007 Solstices and 15,549 2007 Skys are slightly less than the reported build amounts.

It is entirely possible that a non-limited slip rear differential may not "lock up" as the investigated vehicles do, if driven without fluid.

Would not surprise if the recall did just include the limited slip cars.
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21,273 2006 Solstice
24,018 2007 Solstice
16,567 2007 Sky
2,365 2007 Opel GT, interesting nowhere in the news release is Europe mentioned as recipient of any vehicles with issues.


Since it is apparent that an under spec seal was supplied by the vendor there would always be teh possibility that some prper seals did make it through. The number differences, if between lsd and not would indicate that 88% of 2006 Solstices were shipped with lsd, which I find to be, in my opinion without fact, a very high number. If in the course of usual production that high a percentage of option gets ordered the company generally will make that option standard equipment.



But the best advice in all the above posts, don't ask to have anything done if you don't currently have a problem. If you do have a problem, ask the dealer to check up through the channels to be sure any repair they do in January will be covered if you are beyond your mileage limit on a 2006. Recalls do have a shelf life. So you might pass now if you don't want a sound seal messed with, but watch out for the expiration date. (Ask to get a firewall kit installed in a Fiero today and I think you'll get a blank stare.)

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I think this should be added to sticky thread

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According to the NHTSA bulletin you have only ten days after notification to get it to a dealer for inspection and repair - That's not much time - I can't even get mine out of storage till sometime in March or April after the snow leaves>

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Also, everyone keep in mind, there is no actual recall yet. Only the announcement of a future action. Nothing will show up for anyones VIN if it is run by a dealership or even a call to Pontiac Customer Assistance.
Yep, nothing shows up yet at https://www.mygmlink.com/ for my 2007 GXP.

And I want to Thank Small Dealer for participating on this forum, not only for this thread, but many others as well!

I have to admit, this recall (at this point in time, very early) is a bit hard to figure out. Would I want them to replace a seal that has shown (for me) no signs of trouble whatsoever? Or take the advice of many here that say "if it ain't broke don't fix it" ?

Curious to know if the two incidents noted here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22359333/

Were after long slow leaks, which I know I would find long before trouble would occur, or after a more sudden failure/ fast leak.....

Hopefully by the time the recall is official, we'll have more info. I expect we will. So I will stayed tuned.....

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The warranty on a recall repair part is the same as any other GM replacement part.

Which ever is longest, the balance of the original Bumper-to-Bumper Limited Warranty (36 months/36,000 miles for 2006s)/Limited Powertrain Warranty (60 months/100,000 miles for 2007s) or 12 months/12,000 miles.
Thanks for the explanation. If I understand then if I only leak a drop or two and monitor any worsening. It might be better off waiting to next DEC to have the fix done in order to get the most warranty??

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My two cents. For those of you that might be selling your cars in the future, you may want to go ahead and get the recall fix done even though you are not experiencing any problems at the moment. If I were potential buyer of a used Solstice and I knew that a recall had been announced, I for one would make sure that the fix had been completed before I buy the car. Don't want this problem to be the deal breaker. My original 1000 has not had the problem except for the vent leak but I will have the seal replaced anyway.
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I am sure GM has been well aware to the differential issue since day one. It has probably recently achieved the status of Cost Effective to do something about it.

I am curious as to the number of Solstice/Sky that will leave the dealerships with brand new seals, and a new set of improper lift procedure fender dents LOL. Service with caution my kappa brethren.
So until Feb...
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