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Rob : I would be interested in a set
Ditto here too, Rob.
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Rob does the part have to be made out of plastic? What I'm getting at will billet aluminum or some type of similar metal work I sure we can find someone who could produce these parts and even if they cost more if it's a one time charge and they don't break it might be worth looking into.
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All three of my tops have the plastic tab mounted OVER the metal tab that is molded into the rubber at the hinge. the plastic tab is a fix for the problem encountered when the metal tab wears through the rubber and then starts to grab the top and pull it into the hinge as the mechanism rotates to closed position.

It is possible that your plastic tab is missing. Do you see a screw hole in the rubber as in the pictures I posted above?
Neither side had a plastic tab. I'm thinking that may have been a "running change" to address the problem. The original design was a definite case of oversight. Overmolding the rubber onto the steel would normally be a typical situation for a weather seal. BUT introducing the friction of the top fabric against the rubber, which will grab it, was destined to fail because it would cause the metal to cut right through it - as many of us have seen.

Using a metal instead of the plastic would seem to be more robust, but you need to make sure the leading edge is highly polished, or it's going to wear the top fabric. That's the advantage the plastic would have in that it's inherently lubricious and can easily be molded with a very smooth surface.

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CW when was your car built? Mine is June 07

The top I bought was I believe an 06 top off a late car and it had the tabs

Strange

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CW when was your car built? Mine is June 07

The top I bought was I believe an 06 top off a late car and it had the tabs

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My 08 produced in Oct 07 has them.
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July 06 is my build date.

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July 06 is my build date.
Ahhh so you have the infamous type 1 top. Perhaps they did not have the clips.

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Neither side had a plastic tab. I'm thinking that may have been a "running change" to address the problem....
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Ahhh so you have the infamous type 1 top. Perhaps they did not have the clips.
Rehash from 2007. Nothing new here. The tab history was discussed in detail years ago. Many 06's had them, Many 07's did not. 08 did. It's all in this thread.
https://www.solsticeforum.com/forum/f...ing-fix-38004/
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found more interesting information

vin break out for plan A tops vrs Plan B tops

2006 Pontiac Solstice-VIN Breakpoint 6Y118652
2007 Saturn SKY-VIN Breakpoint 7Y103259

These cars should be the point where Plan "B" weatherstrips start.

References for Plan A VS Plan B convertible top. - Saturn Sky Forums: Saturn Sky Forum

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So, should a Plan A top owner worry about impending failure, or is the plastic tab the issue, and only on Plan B tops?
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So, should a Plan A top owner worry about impending failure, or is the plastic tab the issue, and only on Plan B tops?
Having a 1st 1000, I have a Plan A top, and have never had any top issues whatsoever.

Plan B also had other changes with respect to the header on the windshield, and maybe a few other things. It was a long time ago, and I never paid much attention to it back then, as I haven't really had anything wrong with the top.

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So, should a Plan A top owner worry about impending failure, or is the plastic tab the issue, and only on Plan B tops?
I would keep an eye on it when you're putting the top up or down. The "A" would tend to have the rubber wear away and possibly catching/cutting into the fabric. The "B" could possibly have the plastic tab break off.

Or, if we do get a successful alternative in place, you may want to implement just to be on the safe side.

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I've had pinching of the top happen only a few times before on the passenger side, but I corrected it by lowering it again and lifting from the passenger side. I did check the tabs and they do seem to be intact. Why is it that sometimes when I lift the top it also doesn't align? I have to lower and raise it a few times before it 'lands' into the appropriate position..
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I found a source for the TSB. My painter LOL
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NEW DESIGN CONVERTIBLE TOP WEATHERSTRIP
TECHNICAL SERVICE BULLETIN
Reference Number(s): 06-08-67-009A, Date of Issue: October 24, 2006
Affected
Model(s): 2006-2007 Pontiac Solstice; 2007 Saturn SKY
Supercedes:
This bulletin is being revised to update the information and add the 2007 model year
for the Solstice. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 06-08-67-009 (Section 08 -
Body and Accessories).
SERVICE INFORMATION
On late built 2006 Solstice and early built 2007 SKY models, the convertible top and all of the
convertible top weatherstrips, including the windshield weatherstrip and quarter panel muckets,
were redesigned. The easiest way to distinguish between Plan-A and Plan-B designed weatherstrip
is to open the top and from the front of the vehicle look at the number one weatherstrip on the
convertible top (refer to illustration).

Fig 2: Plan-A Or Plan-B Designed Convertible Top
Courtesy of

In the event that any of the convertible top or windshield weatherstrips needs to be replaced refer
to the illustration above to identify if the customer has a Plan-A or Plan-B designed convertible top,
since the weatherstrips are not interchangeable. All convertible tops built on or after VIN 6Y118652
(Pontiac) and 7Y103259 (Saturn), will require Plan-B designed weatherstrips
IMPORTANT: There are some vehicles built
Fig 2: Plan-A Or Plan-B Designed Convertible Top
Courtesy of GENERAL MOTORS CORP.
prior to the above VIN breakpoints that were built
with a Plan-B top and weatherstrips. Always
check which weatherstrip the car is equipped with
before attempting any repairs.

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