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I need computer help!!

I'm trying to salvage an older computer for my children's school work. How can I remove a partition on a hard drive running Windows XP Home. I can only get it to run from the system part of the hard drive? Do I need to change the way it boots?

I'll have to gome back to this. I'm leaving for work right now. Thank you for any help.

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I'm trying to salvage an older computer for my children's school work. How can I remove a partition on a hard drive running Windows XP Home. I can only get it to run from the system part of the hard drive? Do I need to change the way it boots?

I'll have to gome back to this. I'm leaving for work right now. Thank you for any help.
It would help if we knew what brand computer you have.

Many, such as HP, make it virtually impossible to remove their "restore" partition.

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It would help if we knew what brand computer you have.

Many, such as HP, make it virtually impossible to remove their "restore" partition.

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It is HP. I'll probably buy a new hard drive and reload windows

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It is HP
OK, I'm not the computer pro here, but I've learned you can't mess with the partitions on an XP from HP.

What exactly do you want to wind up with? Do you want to remove everything, reformat, and reload the operating system?

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It is HP. I'll probably buy a new hard drive and reload windows
Buy a new hard drive and install Linux!
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OK, I'm not the computer pro here, but I've learned you can't mess with the partitions on an XP from HP.

What exactly do you want to wind up with? Do you want to remove everything, reformat, and reload the operating system?

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YES. The computer now will not recognize the storage section of the drive. It is storing onto the partitioned sectioned.

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First you need a bootable floppy disk. Create the bootdisk on your good system but DO NOT use it on your good system. You can get a bootdisk image from here. Insert a blank floppy disk, double-click on the boot98sc file and it will create the disk for you. Download delpart, copy the file to a bootable floppy disk, turn your OLD computer off, insert the floppy disk into the OLD computer, make sure the computer boots from the floppy disk, when you get to the "DOS" prompt type delpart.exe, delete all partitions you see, exit delpart, and reboot the computer. All partitions should be gone.

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I'd say get a new hard drive, you can probably try to save the existing partition, but most likely too time consuming.

If it were me, I'd find out what type of HD it is, manufacturer and size. Then go to that manufacturers website, download their particular drive formatting utility for dos, and format it. I doubt you have the restore disk from the manufacturer, since you said it's older, and may be long gone by now. You'll need an OS to run on it after the format. If the HD size is anything less than 20gb, I'd get a new one. They aren't very expensive anymore, just saw a 300gb for 80. You could probably get a new 160gb for about 40-50. If you're going to spend the money on a brand spanking new OS, you might as well put it on a drive you can use for a while. Just my 2 cents.

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The computer may not recognize a large hard drive (>137GB) depending on how old it is.

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Chances are, if its running XP, its good to go with any size hard drive. Problem is, if you start messing around with partitions, you're going to nuke the whole hard drive and will end up reloading everything. So, safest easiest thing to do would be to just replace the hard drive. You can buy software that will change the partition info safely, but only do that if you're willing to reload everything if necessary. I rarely trust that kind of software.
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we use a tool called "Partition Magic" lets you resize partitions, change primary etc
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It is HP. I'll probably buy a new hard drive and reload windows
Which model of theirs? I have two of them, one older model which I'm planning to do the same to, I've blown it away several times over the years, and reloaded/upgraded the OS without an issue. It came with 98, ran 2000 for several years, and the next install will be XP, or 2000, depends. Right now it's waiting for me to get it a new hard drive. It's a 9600 Pavilion. The one I use is an a450y, and adding a second large drive is looming large in it's future. But I've reinstalled it already twice, not pretty, and it's a 2-3 day process to get all the software reinstalled, and up & running again.

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Fired, first why would you want teh computer to run from anywhere but the partition where the system is stored. That is a given, also one of teh reasons it is difficult to store an operating system on a zipdrive, for example (it can be done, changing boot order, making teh drive bootable, etc) If the OS is on drive C you have to boot from drive C

One of teh things with computers even only a few years old, they do not come with a MS Windows disk. Each mfg has it customized, they install at teh factory, XP many times partitions to keep a mirror of the system on the second part for recovery purposes. The original rescue and restore disk(s) from HP will allow you to restore the computer to its original configuration and some even allow you to set partitions differently then. The downside is you lose all data on the computer. THat can also be good. Assume you have backed up and removed all critical data of your own a ful restore might be the best solution.

If your C is too small compared to D it could be that the original intent of this computer was for graphics and audio/video. In that type of application you store all teh data, the byte hungry files on D, away from the OS.

I have never tried removing a partition with other software as I was under the (mistaken?) assumption that you could not change partitions without losing data.

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Thank you for all your help. I have some thing to try now!!

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If you know anything about dos. Use a boot disk from WIN 98 and use the fdisk program on there..
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