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post #211 of 226 (permalink) Old 04-07-2016, 06:25 AM
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ok,

got it and installed and I believe it's ready to go.

if anyone wished to answer my questions, I'd appreciate it(the trifecta references and user guide leaves a lot lacking, speaking as a software programmer):

1. when it's on the cruise control, it's always on or just when you set the cruise control ?
2. is a little warm up always a good thing ? still a little cool out there this spring.
3. anyone know how to use the software to check how it's running, if that's possible ?

any other tips would be great.
#2 - yes....I do not romp on my car or even get above a couple pounds of boost until I'm at least 180 degrees.

#3 - yes, but the best way to "datalog" is to get hptuners. It's expensive, but there aren't many programs out there that will datalog real-time. The torque app isn't fast enough to real-time datalog. You will get a sweep of the sensors about every 3/4 - 1 second, which is horrible.

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post #212 of 226 (permalink) Old 04-07-2016, 01:41 PM
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Trifecta Budget Tune On/Off

From what I understand and recall (and I actually own the Trifecta Budget Tune), the Cruise Control button actually DISENGAGES the tune, not activates it.

The logic being that the tune is active all the time if cruise is not engaged, but if you are driving on the highway and engage cruise to maintain a constant speed, WHY would the tune at that point then be engaged??? It would not. That would be the time when you would NOT need the tune engaged.

So it is actually pushing the large Cruise button that disengages the tune, the SET button does not necessarily have to be engaged to suppress the tune, only the large Cruise button. When Cruise is completely OFF, then the tune is ON.
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Allow me to clarify this.

The tune could originally be set for either the on or off switch position. I have mine turned on when the cruise is on - my thinking was that a dealer (back in the days when I still had warranty coverage) might turn a cruise off if he saw the light on, and if they did and then tested the car, they would get some pretty interesting and possibly warranty denying readings.

I had mine set for on=on. Oddly enough, I have seen a couple of people saying that they asked for this option but were told that Trifecta couldn't do it and that the 'on' for the tune had to =off for the cruise, something I know for a fact is not true. No idea why. Maybe they have decided to do them all that way for some reason.

I am tempted to go back and convert mine to a non-switchable version - with the bigger turbo, I can't run the GMPP tune without incurring significant knock!

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As I recall, Trifecta set the default position for the tune to be active when the cruise button was off. But you are correct, I do remember them giving buyers a choice. I just went with the default setting. Cruise On = Tune Off.
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post #215 of 226 (permalink) Old 01-06-2017, 07:09 AM
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My comment back to Trifecta!! - I mean wow.. what a shocker..


Install complete! (1/4/17).
Wow !!
What a difference in a totally stock GXP. Before I could hold the gas to the floor and the boost would go right to 14psi and stay there. Now it goes right to 21psi and flashes back and forth around 21/22/23 psi.

The character and responsiveness of the car are completely different.

If I want, is there a way to go back in the software and add the cruise control "on" to turn off the tune?
If not, no biggie. It just seems after the fact that the additional power is not good in winter road conditions.

Great deal!

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Just got my 07' mt gxp and wow! Been reading seeing a lot about the budget tunes and was reading some custom tunes required the install of aftermarket sensors. Are you just using the stock sensors?
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Allow me to clarify this.

The tune could originally be set for either the on or off switch position. I have mine turned on when the cruise is on - my thinking was that a dealer (back in the days when I still had warranty coverage) might turn a cruise off if he saw the light on, and if they did and then tested the car, they would get some pretty interesting and possibly warranty denying readings.

I had mine set for on=on. Oddly enough, I have seen a couple of people saying that they asked for this option but were told that Trifecta couldn't do it and that the 'on' for the tune had to =off for the cruise, something I know for a fact is not true. No idea why. Maybe they have decided to do them all that way for some reason...
I just purchased a Trifecta budget tune and thought a response to this old post might help someone else now. Firstly let me say the reason I want my tune set to as @wspohn says, "on=on" is 1, I can leave the cc button on and it stays on after restarting car, so I don't have to press a button every time I start car to get to the tune. And 2, when putting along with cc on I want the option for immediate full power to pass some jerk, pedal to the metal as they say, not first messing around with buttons.

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I have verified customers used to have the option to buy it this way.
I have verified Trifecta now says they can not do it.
Trusting @wspohn posts, I pressed Trifecta for an explanation. Steven at Trifecta today responds, "We've posted some updated calibrations to your download page, including one labeled "CC_BACKWARDS". We don't recommend using it, frankly, but its what you asked for. There may be some quirks to power delivery, which is why we stopped offering it years ago."

I will either use the cc on=on or use the always on file I also got from Trifecta. Just wondering if wspohn or anyone else with the old on=on option can report some detail on power delivery quirks they've experienced.

And it brings to mind a more general question, like if someone has gotten the competition mode = on option, or the always on option, is the cruise control operation messed up when using with the tuned mode? More jerky cc? Or other problems I should be alert for? Basically I'm a little mystified if cc works as normal with the always on tune, but Trifecta reports quirky with cc on=on. Perhaps a result of a software bug, not a necessary logical characteristic? Anyone?
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Thanks for that follow up - I always wondered why they were telling people they couldn't do something that they could obviously do when I got the tune.

I have never had any issues with mine and the button has been on for 8 years now )I have a modded turbo, so the underlying GM tune is not an option for me). I should ask them if they can dig up my tune and give me an 'always on' version.

I rarely use cruise (too much traffic locally - it is only useful for long cross country trips wit moderate traffic), but it still works just fine. I recall reading about one of the steering wheel switches getting high resistance across the switch which could be cured by cleaning but don't recall the details - maybe that is what they were referring to - anyone recall the exact problem?
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post #219 of 226 (permalink) Old 01-16-2019, 08:30 PM
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Where?

Anyone know of a place near Jacksonville, FL to get the tune and other goodies installed. The place in West Palm Beach doesn't have it listed any more.
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It is very easy to do it yourself - no mechanic needed. If you have a lap top and the cord they send you it should take you 10 minutes.

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I probably could do the tune, but I'm fairly new here and don't have a full garage setup, to install the Backbone and Pro Beam and whatever else catches my eye.
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Backbone is quite easy, but Probeam does really want a hoist to do easily.

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The backbone and pro-beam are both quite easy. Both will require a hydraulic jack and a couple of jack stands. Ive used my battery powered impact wrench for nearly every mod that I've ever installed on the car. I can have my exhaust dropped on my GXP in about 2 minutes once the car is jacked up, using various extensions for my sockets on my impact wrench. Anyways, the backbone doesn't take long to zip all the bolts off using power tools, I'd recommend a torque wrench to get all bolts locked down to the proper spec.....ya know, instead of my trying to explain how to do the mods, just head over to DDM's website, download and read the installation instructions for any mod they have listed, then decide if you have the tools and expertise to do them. Location? A parking lot will work for either.

Edit - Where there's a will there's a way. You mentioned the tune - very easy, especially with a laptop~~

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Does anyone have any info on the necessary cable? Model #, place to buy, etc. WHY is it so expensive? I have OBDII cables, not the same?

I need to reinstall tune. DDM Works wants $175 for cable, $100 refundable. ??!?!?!!!

Where can I just buy one of these magic cables?

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Not the same as the usual cables. Check with Trifecta directly to see what they cost, or if they would 'rent' one to you that you'd return after the reload of the tune.

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