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Is the fan and blade the same as a NON turbo unit less the controller?
Apparently not.

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Took our 2009 GXP in for inspection and overheated while testing. Sure enough, fan isn't working. Took the fan out today and applied 12V via charger to the controller and it spins up fine. No codes BTW. Does this mean my ECU is not sending 12V when the temp goes above the set point? Guess I'll put the fan back in and take it to someone who can test the ECU signal. Any other suggestion(s)?
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My Sky R/L radiator fan quit working, and I recently read about replacing the fan controller with one for the 2007 Ford Crown Vic for $22: RY1532 Fan Control Relay Module Fits Ford Crown Victoria Town Car Marquis | eBay

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I have a 07 GXP spare that I pulled the controller and fan out and put the controller on the 09. Same result > no fan operation after running temp up to 230. Hard to believe both controllers are bad. Pulled the fan from the 09. Bench tested both by applying 12v to the controllers and both fans spin up. Just tested voltage on the controller plug and have 12.8V constant that bumps to 14V when engine running.

Two options:
1) Both controllers are bad, i.e. the control circuit when plugged in will not close the circuit but if I apply 12V to the primary connectors on the controllers both fans spin up.
2) Controllers are good and something upstream in the ECU (?) is not sending the signal to the controller to allow the voltage to the fan.

I ran the temp up to 230 with the AC on and the fan never ran. Even plugged in the second fan/controller with the engine on and no go wiht that one either.
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Fan speed control for the 2.0 is by a PWM signal to pin 4 of the fan controller and should be easy enough to measure.

The PWM signal works in reverse, where near B+ is off, and near ground is full speed, I presume so that most failures will set the fan to full speed.

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Was going to get one of these and try it but O'Reillys shows it for $140.99. Where/when did you get one for $22?

https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/b/l...troller/Module

RockAuto has it for $85. Better.

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Was going to get one of these and try it but O'Reillys shows it for $140.99. Where/when did you get one for $22?

https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/b/l...troller/Module

RockAuto has it for $85. Better.
eBay and Amazon.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw...+vic+fan+relay

https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=crown+vic+fan+relay

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Thanks. Cheap ones seem spotty on quality, lasting days, weeks, months or go name brand for higher quality, lifetime...

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Is that a question or a statement?

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Many have used the cheap $25 ones without issues but as with everything you takes your chances. That would be one I'd be willing to take.
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Just an observation on the feedback of the cheap ones. OK, bought 3 (in case both are bad and one more spare!) on ebay for $9 ea plus shipping.
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Seems like half the reviews on the cheap ones are failures. Not worth it to me. I got the AC Delco unit;

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... as with everything you takes your chances. That would be one I'd be willing to take.
I completely agree. If you can buy the cheap ones at a fifth of the price of an ACdelco one, then why not? You can go through 4 failures and *still* be ahead. It's not like they're difficult to swap.

I'd struggle a bit with the $9 ones JR found, but again so cheap, buy a few (as he did) and have fun!

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I completely agree. If you can buy the cheap ones at a fifth of the price of an ACdelco one, then why not? You can go through 4 failures and *still* be ahead. It's not like they're difficult to swap.

I'd struggle a bit with the $9 ones JR found, but again so cheap, buy a few (as he did) and have fun!
Well carry the extras with you lol. Mine failed 30 minutes from my house on a hot Phoenix day in rush hour traffic. Had to stop 3 times for extended cool offs to limp it home. Luckily it wasn't 115 degrees hot out.
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