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post #91 of 136 (permalink) Old 08-31-2019, 11:23 AM
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Those are carbon bits you have on your cam solenoids. I had the same thing...but mine was twice as bad because I let my car idle all winter every 2 weeks to keep the battery charged.

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No leaks anymore, but still overheating w/ no inside heat. I used the vacuum filler but I can absolutely tell there is still air trapped. This is so aggravating.

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Those are carbon bits you have on your cam solenoids. I had the same thing...but mine was twice as bad because I let my car idle all winter every 2 weeks to keep the battery charged.
Most of it was definitely metal, it was shiny and hard.

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No leaks anymore, but still overheating w/ no inside heat. I used the vacuum filler but I can absolutely tell there is still air trapped. This is so aggravating.
sometimes it's just a matter of patience. I have in some instances had to let the car heat up, cool down, milk the radiator hoses, heat up again and repeat the process several times to finally get the air out. Check the reservoir level each time. If it begins to drop, the air is coming out. Don't let the reservoir get empty or you will suck the air right back into the system.

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Remove the thermostat housing. Remove thermostat. Drill a hole ot two through the outer ring of the thermostat. Reinstall. Fill with water and be done with it.
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A number of members have mentioned the check valve additions and TSB; have you confirmed using them yet @laser411? I'd add them if I was going to work on the GXP cooling system myself. I don't do that but I had them put in at the dealer as per the TSB. I hope this gets figured out soon for you.
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A number of members have mentioned the check valve additions and TSB; have you confirmed using them yet @laser411? I'd add them if I was going to work on the GXP cooling system myself. I don't do that but I had them put in at the dealer as per the TSB. I hope this gets figured out soon for you.
I have not, yet, as i thought the vac and fill would work. I did order them yesterday.

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...i thought the vac and fill would work.
One would think. But, alas, such is not always the case. The check valves are very easy to install (just don't put them in facing the wrong direction!). I assume the system holds a vacuum?

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...i thought the vac and fill would work.
One would think. But, alas, such is not always the case. The check valves are very easy to install (just don't put them in facing the wrong direction!). I assume the system holds a vacuum?
Yes, flattens the hoses and doesn't leake vacuum.

Doesn't seem to leak wgile hot either, though I definitely have less coolant than after the vac and fill. There's for sure, no coolant in the oil and there's no smoke coming out of the exhaust at all. So maybe it's burping itself but shouldn't the vac also pull pressure on the thermostat side as well?

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I'm going to pull the sprocket cover again, I think there may be something wrong and the water pump isn't turning.

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Yes, flattens the hoses and doesn't leake vacuum.

Doesn't seem to leak wgile hot either, though I definitely have less coolant than after the vac and fill. There's for sure, no coolant in the oil and there's no smoke coming out of the exhaust at all. So maybe it's burping itself but shouldn't the vac also pull pressure on the thermostat side as well?
Not necessarily, it pulls from both sides and the flow could swing to only one side and stop on the other.

Question (I haven't gone thru 7 pages of this thread again) did you disconnect the heater core hoses and make sure the core was filled?
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Using the vac took me 6 times to get it to actually flow. The final time, I actually warmed the car a bit (let it run for 2 minutes, with the pressure cap off). Then pulled the hose DDMWorks says about...put another 12oz or so into the coolant tank until the waterfall started.

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Yes, flattens the hoses and doesn't leake vacuum.

Doesn't seem to leak wgile hot either, though I definitely have less coolant than after the vac and fill. There's for sure, no coolant in the oil and there's no smoke coming out of the exhaust at all. So maybe it's burping itself but shouldn't the vac also pull pressure on the thermostat side as well?
Not necessarily, it pulls from both sides and the flow could swing to only one side and stop on the other.

Question (I haven't gone thru 7 pages of this thread again) did you disconnect the heater core hoses and make sure the core was filled?
I have not, didn't know I needed to.

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So I pulled the hoses from the heater core and coolant came out, though it was still pretty orange (I have been using water until i figure this thing out, coolant getting expensive). Is there an easier way to determine if there is coolant flow/water pump turning than pulling that cover off?

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So I pulled the hoses from the heater core and coolant came out, though it was still pretty orange (I have been using water until i figure this thing out, coolant getting expensive). Is there an easier way to determine if there is coolant flow/water pump turning than pulling that cover off?
DDM Dave has said that they have occasionally encountered difficult to bleed cars, and in (many of?) those cases a bubble in the heater core was to blame. He said to removed the hoses and manually fill the core, then re-bleed.

Last time I changed my coolant, I was having the same issue and I did the manual-fill-core trick and it cleared the problem. YMMV.

Update: Found one instance of aforesaid comment: http://www.kappaperformance.com/foru...html#msg161228
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