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post #1 of 26 (permalink) Old 06-03-2018, 10:38 AM Thread Starter
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Gmpp upgrade

I have the GMPP upgrade kit, have not installed it yet, I've read that it's best to solder the wires, in place of crimp connectors, pls advise ?, dealer will do the install,
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depends where you purchased the product from...

if you got it from crateEngineDepot, then you have the newer wiring which
does not require any soldering.

if you got it from anywhere else, you MUST solder to your long term benefit.

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He can always buy the wire connectors they developed and stay away from soldering.

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I have the GMPP upgrade kit, have not installed it yet, I've read that it's best to solder the wires, in place of crimp connectors, pls advise ?, dealer will do the install,
You didn't purchase the pigtail kit from Crate Engine Depot? That eliminates the need for crimping or soldering.

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You didn't purchase the pigtail kit from Crate Engine Depot? That eliminates the need for crimping or soldering.

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Just had mine done. Purchased the plug and play setup from CrateEngineDepot. It's worth every penny of the cost just knowing you don't have to worry about bad connections!
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here are the map sensors if you want them cheap too. https://www.summitracing.com/parts/b...MaAi8fEALw_wcB
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For me, the appeal of the GMPP was that it was guaranteed by GM. I am not a mechanic, and GM does all my service. I have had my GMPP for four and a half years. Great power, great torque, and completely trouble free. Nuff said...
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You didn't purchase the pigtail kit from Crate Engine Depot? That eliminates the need for crimping or soldering.

Cobalt, Solstice, HHR Stage Kit Harness Adapter 19212670H
Not to pick nits, especially on an old message, but that's not a pigtail. A pigtail is the connector, with some wires, but no matching connector on the other end so that you can splice it into the existing harness. (I only point this out as it can cause some confusion when Googling for parts.)

PWerks also sells the entire kit - sensors, o-rings and adapter cables .

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Let us know if you need any help.
GM currently has the kit on back order but we should have stock again soon.

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Both my kappas have the Gm tune. Purchased years ago when GM installed with a crimp. Both had issues and I soldered and have not had another issue. I wish the connector had been available when my cars were done. So much better to be able to plug and play rather then cut wires. Order the connector from CrateEngineDepot!

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I ran this tune back hen running anything else would void warranty. Once the car was off warranty I got a much better tune. I see no reason to go with the GMPP tune today.

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I ran this tune back hen running anything else would void warranty. Once the car was off warranty I got a much better tune. I see no reason to go with the GMPP tune today.


I agree

In this day and age if you are thinking about buying the GMPP upgrade your literally paying more $ for less HP.

If “GM reliability” is what your after then just have one of our vendors (like Pwerks) flash a tune that is a copy of the GM tune.

That way you will have less $ for less HP.

Or go with a custom tune for more HP and still less $.

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Broken record here, but since we no longer have warranties on our cars the one positive thing that I can think of is that the car remains all OEM with the GMPP. If that's isn't important to you, then go aftermarket for more power and greater value.

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