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post #31 of 74 (permalink) Old 01-29-2019, 11:25 PM Thread Starter
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Raygun, I agree completely!

The hoses coming out the wrong way and interfering with the battery bothered me too. I ordered one of these halfway through the install. Not sure if it will work but for $30 it gives me something to play with and see if I can come up with a better solution.

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post #32 of 74 (permalink) Old 02-04-2019, 02:34 PM Thread Starter
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Treadstone has a lot of useful stuff for turbo installs including some EFR specific fittings.

This might be a good alternative to the coolant hardline:

Turbo Waterline, Feed-line, Supply Line- TREADSTONE PERFORMANCE
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Finally underway. Pulled the stock stuff out tonight. It was more work than I was expecting. A couple of good knuckle busters in there for sure.
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Nice!

While it's easy to get the manifold back off, it's a good time to go ahead and replace the water pump if you haven't already.

Also, when installing the cat, I found it helped a lot to remove the passenger side motor mount (from under the car) and lift the engine up a few inches on that side. Just put a block of wood on top of your jack and lift it. Removing the 2-3 10mm bolts that hold the fuse box in place will let you slide that out a few inches, as well. (Every little bit of space helps!)

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Solo has 2 videos on YouTube detailing how to remove the old cat without touching motor mounts. It requires "spinning" the cat in a VERY specific pattern. Video 2 shows the spin maneuver. I laid under my car and would watch 5 seconds of the video, pause the video, try to emulate what I saw, often times rewinding and trying again until I got that specific spin, then would hit play for an additional 5 seconds, trying to emulate that, etc. Reverse spinning to get the new cat in.

I genuinely thought it would have been impossible to do until I followed the steps - it actually worked!!!

Good luck!

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Solo has 2 videos on YouTube detailing how to remove the old cat without touching motor mounts. It requires "spinning" the cat in a VERY specific pattern. Video 2 shows the spin maneuver. I laid under my car and would watch 5 seconds of the video, pause the video, try to emulate what I saw, often times rewinding and trying again until I got that specific spin, then would hit play for an additional 5 seconds, trying to emulate that, etc. Reverse spinning to get the new cat in.

I genuinely thought it would have been impossible to do until I followed the steps - it actually worked!!!

Good luck!

Video 1:
https://youtu.be/kgNkvD7OKnk
Video 2:
https://youtu.be/sIwMKwHYHJw
I followed the video and got my stock cat out without too much problem. After I got it out I watched the 3rd part where they pointed out the they raised the motor a couple of inches lol. I didn't need to do that but it may be necessary when it comes time to get this wastegate in there.
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Solo has 2 videos on YouTube detailing how to remove the old cat without touching motor mounts. It requires "spinning" the cat in a VERY specific pattern. Video 2 shows the spin maneuver. I laid under my car and would watch 5 seconds of the video, pause the video, try to emulate what I saw, often times rewinding and trying again until I got that specific spin, then would hit play for an additional 5 seconds, trying to emulate that, etc. Reverse spinning to get the new cat in.

I genuinely thought it would have been impossible to do until I followed the steps - it actually worked!!!

Good luck!

Video 1:
https://youtu.be/kgNkvD7OKnk
Video 2:
https://youtu.be/sIwMKwHYHJw
I followed the video and got my stock cat out without too much problem. After I got it out I watched the 3rd part where they pointed out the they raised the motor a couple of inches lol. I didn't need to do that but it may be necessary when it comes time to get this wastegate in there.

There's a third video?? Haha!! I never saw the video but managed to do the spin and removal maneuver without raising anything.
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After spending over an hour trying to get the cat out, I raised the motor and it popped right out. I'm sure it's possible to get it out without lifting the engine, but it takes less than ten minutes to do and provided a LOT more clearance.

I feel like I've had this conversation before. Recently.

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Got a little work done today. Mostly just going back and forth getting everything to fit - cutting and trimming as necessary. Moved the oil feed line over. Had to rework the oil drain fitting as it wouldn't begin to clear the water pipe.

At the last second I decided I might as well check the nuts on the exhaust manifold and it's a good thing I did as they were almost all loose. One was backed out about 3 turns. That seemed strange as every other nut involved in the turbo removal seemed like it was welded on.
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Wastegate installed. Hard to even get pictures of it. Having a lift made this 1000x easier.
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Nice work. But, I think using a lift is cheating.

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The final pieces to the puzzle just arrived. Hopefully I will get this wrapped up in the next couple of days.
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Having trouble getting this project wrapped up. Sure looks like the new pipe is too long.
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Looks normal.

It's easier to attach the pipe to the turbo first, then to the intercooler second. Also, you can rotate it some to get some more room. (Obviously, leave the clamps loose when doing this.) (Some silicone on the inside of the couplers makes this a bit easier, as well.)

There are a lot of posts, etc. around talking about the pipes being too long. I had some issues getting the LH pipe to clear the hood, but some wiggling and rotating got it to work.

I'm not sure why DDM doesn't just make them an inch shorter. There's plenty of clearance.

(And don't forget your clamps!)

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